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Old 02-06-2016, 04:22 PM
 
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Good to hear

Time to end the Sanders DELUSION. He's WAY too far left to win a general election in this country.

The sooner Hilly wraps this thing up, the better...

 
Old 02-06-2016, 04:25 PM
 
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Hillary apparently has sent well over 10 000 volunteers to NH and they are flooding the state. I think this could go down to the wire.
Based on what I've been seeing, it seems like the campaigns with better ground games seem to be doing better overall in New Hampshire. I'm not sure what GOTV mechanisms Bernie has in place.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 04:29 PM
 
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Hillary apparently has sent well over 10 000 volunteers to NH and they are flooding the state. I think this could go down to the wire.
LOL, yeah I've seen those bogus Berniebot tweets about her too.
She has a great number of volunteers who live in NH, and as usual she's never short of folks willing to drive in and knock on doors or do what's needed. Neither she nor her volunteers will ever call in a snow day. But the NH campaign is low-key compared to Iowa.

Most of the polls close at 7PM and Bernie will be declared the winner by 7:15 so you can make that dinner reservation just fine, no worries.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 04:30 PM
 
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Good to hear

Time to end the Sanders DELUSION. He's WAY too far left to win a general election in this country.

The sooner Hilly wraps this thing up, the better...
Yet he matches up better against every possible GOP candidate than Hillary does
 
Old 02-06-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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Yet he matches up better against every possible GOP candidate than Hillary does
Yup. Latest poll has him in a statistical tie nationwide as well. He won the independent vote 69-26 in Iowa. That's a large margin. Hillary is not good with independents. Let's see what the NH results will be. I fear an upset here. The corporate media talks about home advantage for Bernie but anyone who lives there knows NH is Boston centric and far from the population center of Vermont.

There is still an uphill battle in SC though as more than a third of voters there believe Sanders will reward his wealthy campaign donors once in office in the poll I saw. More correct information is key there for a good result. But he has received quite a few endorsements there from the AA community which could correct all this misinformation.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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He won the independent vote 69-26 in Iowa. That's a large margin.
That doesn't make sense. By definition, everyone who caucused in Iowa is either a Democrat or a Republican.
Bernie voters caucused Democrat of course, and there was literally no way to track or record how individuals voted. So what's your source for that non-fact?
 
Old 02-06-2016, 05:12 PM
 
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Yet he matches up better against every possible GOP candidate than Hillary does

Smash, my man, please don't fall for that misguided line of thinking.

First of all, those polls are absolutely meaningless, at this point.

Second, the GOP attack dogs have basically ignored Sanders to this point ... while Hillary has been under constant attack for years.

Third, the GOP dogs will destroy Sanders in the media if he's the nominee. You'll literally be hearing the word "socialist" in your sleep all summer and fall. Hillary is not only supremely-qualified for the job, but is clearly battle-tested.

Fourth, every single bookmaker out there, websites where people are betting REAL MONEY on the outcome of the presidential election, currently shows Hillary as the STRONG odds-on favorite to win ... while Sanders is still a 7-1 or 8-1 longshot.

Don't be a dupe like Mike, man ... there's a reason why pubs are licking their chops at the prospect of a Sanders' nomination ... and attack Hillary at every turn.

Here's a link that The Great Krug put on his blog this afternoon that all misguided Bernie cheerleaders should read...

Were Democrats to make the "democratic socialist" from Vermont their nominee, would he have a chance of winning a general election?

We posed that question to six of the country's top political scientists, and their answers were broadly consistent: Under some unlikely circumstances, Sanders could win a general election. But nominating him would make it significantly more difficult for Democrats to keep the White House.


We asked 6 political scientists if Bernie Sanders would have a shot in a general election - Vox
 
Old 02-06-2016, 05:20 PM
 
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That doesn't make sense. By definition, everyone who caucused in Iowa is either a Democrat or a Republican.
Bernie voters caucused Democrat of course, and there was literally no way to track or record how individuals voted. So what's your source for that non-fact?
From the exit polls of what the voters considered themselves. Clinton won 56-39 among Democrats and Sanders won 69-26 among Independents.

Iowa Caucus 2016: Election Results - NBC News
 
Old 02-06-2016, 05:34 PM
 
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Smash, my man, please don't fall for that misguided line of thinking.

First of all, those polls are absolutely meaningless, at this point.

Second, the GOP attack dogs have basically ignored Sanders to this point ... while Hillary has been under constant attack for years.

Third, the GOP dogs will destroy Sanders in the media if he's the nominee. You'll literally be hearing the word "socialist" in your sleep all summer and fall. Hillary is not only supremely-qualified for the job, but is clearly battle-tested.

Fourth, every single bookmaker out there, websites where people are betting REAL MONEY on the outcome of the presidential election, currently shows Hillary as the STRONG odds-on favorite to win ... while Sanders is still a 7-1 or 8-1 longshot.

Don't be a dupe like Mike, man ... there's a reason why pubs are licking their chops at the prospect of a Sanders' nomination ... and attack Hillary at every turn.

Here's a link that The Great Krug put on his blog this afternoon that all misguided Bernie cheerleaders should read...

Were Democrats to make the "democratic socialist" from Vermont their nominee, would he have a chance of winning a general election?

We posed that question to six of the country's top political scientists, and their answers were broadly consistent: Under some unlikely circumstances, Sanders could win a general election. But nominating him would make it significantly more difficult for Democrats to keep the White House.


We asked 6 political scientists if Bernie Sanders would have a shot in a general election - Vox
Vox have been gunning hard for Clinton for months now, just like WaPo and NYTimes and the rest. These dinosaurs are rapidly losing power to social media and the internet. People who are connected are overwhelmingly supportive of Sanders. We are seeing a huge generational disparity and it is very encouraging. As long as the internet stays free and open we have an excellent chance of restoring democracy in America (no I dont think you are a plutocrat Market Junkie, you just play one).
 
Old 02-06-2016, 05:34 PM
 
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Great article. Every undecided Democrat should read it.
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