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Old 08-23-2012, 09:42 AM
 
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60 percent of independents want medicare to stay the way it is, which is bad for romney.

republicans are split on it.

and you republicans say romney has it in the bag.
please.

Obama leads Florida, close in Ohio, Wis. - POLITICO.com

Be happy with those polls. That is the only joy that liberals will feel this election cycle- in biased liberal polls.

Obama has already lost the election.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Obama is leading Florida according to that poll regardless of trying to reason out of it.

Without Florida its game over.
He's within the ME that's not a lead, nice try though. He is collapsing among seniors. Florida is in the bag of to Ohio.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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Keep oversampling Dems to keep your pathetic hopes up.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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60 percent of independents want medicare to stay the way it is, which is bad for romney.

republicans are split on it.

and you republicans say romney has it in the bag.
please.

Obama leads Florida, close in Ohio, Wis. - POLITICO.com
Isn't this interesting: the lastest polls from Rassumsen (spelling) and Gallop are just the opposite and they are not based on something from NYTIMES< CBS and a universtiy; the polls taken you are referring to always lean completely left,but you just keep right on thinkin this way....It will make you feel good..I just don't know how you will feel the first time these polls lean the other way...
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Obama is leading Florida according to that poll regardless of trying to reason out of it.

Without Florida its game over.
your poll, yes, Florida is in Obamas corner now: the other polls show a different story. Thus we can reach one of two conclusions: 1-todays polls are totally meaningless or 2-the NYTimes poll is based on sampling of more Democrats than Republicasn, thus making it not legit...
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Default Romney/Ryan Save Medicare: Obama kills it.

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60 percent of independents want medicare to stay the way it is, which is bad for romney.

republicans are split on it.

and you republicans say romney has it in the bag.
please.

Obama leads Florida, close in Ohio, Wis. - POLITICO.com
Actually, Obama kills Medicare. He greatly reduces it (Medicare Advantage ends), and if nothing is done, it will be gone (bankrupt) very soon. That's why Romney/Ryan have a plan to save it, and offer more options. To those 55 and above, nothing changes.

It will be no good to anyone under ObamaCare, if it ceases to exist! This is a winner for Romney/Ryan.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:34 PM
 
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The polls are all showing the same thing: The vast majority of likely voters have already made up their minds and are not going to change no matter what happens. Obama continues to lead within the MOE as he has for months. So, it's up to a handful of less informed people to decide. Obama's campaign has a huge, huge infra-structure and get out the vote effort. The less likely and unlikely voters break heavily for Obama and, if he is successful in getting them to the polls, will give him the election.

The most important question to this group is "Who cares more about people like you?" Obama completely blows Romney away on this one. The trick, again, will be getting them motivated to vote what they believe.
Where's your evidence? Just saying it doesn't make it a fact.

And which polling institution has asked THAT question??? None that I can find. Colloquial questions have real impacts on the answer. I challenge you to show us who has asked that question, and under what weighting did they use to determine the percentages.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Be happy with those polls. That is the only joy that liberals will feel this election cycle- in biased liberal polls.

Obama has already lost the election.
I can't wait to see their convention. It's going to be a real dog and pony show with Sandra Fluke and Elizabeth Warren as speakers!! Fluke, of course, will be making a spectacle of herself by speaking about abortion (she probably doesn't know that the majority of Americans disagree with her and are pro-life).

Warren will be dishing out more of the "you didn't build that" dog food that Obama used so effectively in Roanoke. Warren, of course, was dishing out the same bowl of Kibbles 'n Bits a year earlier. I hear she is dropping behind in her Senate race against Scott Brown.
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Old 08-23-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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Obama won Florida by less than 3 pts in 2008. Does anyone think his position is stronger there this year.
He won Ohio by less than 5,in a huge Democrat year,maybe the best since 1932. Now,he's supposed to win by more than he did then? Sure.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:51 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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I can't wait to see their convention. It's going to be a real dog and pony show with Sandra Fluke and Elizabeth Warren as speakers!! Fluke, of course, will be making a spectacle of herself by speaking about abortion (she probably doesn't know that the majority of Americans disagree with her and are pro-life).

Warren will be dishing out more of the "you didn't build that" dog food that Obama used so effectively in Roanoke. Warren, of course, was dishing out the same bowl of Kibbles 'n Bits a year earlier. I hear she is dropping behind in her Senate race against Scott Brown.
LOL, yea millions out of jobs and they are talking about abortion and of course "you didn't build that".
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