Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Regarding healthcare, I have trouble believing that new grad RNs START at 100K anywhere, including San Francisco. The highest paid RNs at the Brigham in Boston get up in the low 100s, but don't start there.
Also, remember you don't have to go to four years of college for an RN. You can go to a hospital school for two years (if there are any left near you) or a community college for two years, and get an A.D. Everyone takes the same RN boards. If you see a job you want that requires more degrees, then go get them. That was my plan, and I never did see said job, so didn't get more degrees (went to a hospital diploma school for two years. Currently make over 100K with 26 years experience and working third shift).
Hard to believe... but true...
Callahan said that the reason the city needed to pay nurses more boiled down to supply and demand. "It's a hot market right now, and we have to compete with places like Kaiser, Stanford and UCSF."
Under the proposed contract, pay for entry-level registered nurses would increase from $98,410 to $100,255 in the first year of the pact.
Callahan noted that patients who come to San Francisco General and Laguna Honda Hospital -- the city's two primary public hospitals -- tend to be sicker and can be more challenging to care for than those arriving at private medical facilities.
She said the city needed to add to the total number of registered nurses at its public hospitals to meet patient demand and provide an acceptable level of service.
Regarding healthcare, I have trouble believing that new grad RNs START at 100K anywhere, including San Francisco. The highest paid RNs at the Brigham in Boston get up in the low 100s, but don't start there.
The SF area is still nearly at the top of cost of housing areas. According to housingtracker, Boston is much less. I'm not that surprised.
Callahan said that the reason the city needed to pay nurses more boiled down to supply and demand. "It's a hot market right now, and we have to compete with places like Kaiser, Stanford and UCSF."
Under the proposed contract, pay for entry-level registered nurses would increase from $98,410 to $100,255 in the first year of the pact.
Callahan noted that patients who come to San Francisco General and Laguna Honda Hospital -- the city's two primary public hospitals -- tend to be sicker and can be more challenging to care for than those arriving at private medical facilities.
She said the city needed to add to the total number of registered nurses at its public hospitals to meet patient demand and provide an acceptable level of service.
Many of our RN's have two year community college degrees, although the trend definitely is four year...
We have 2 excellent Nurses that challenged the Boards and passed... one trained in Germany and the other in Austria...
Another way to become a California RN is to be a military Coreman....
Just like you said supply and demand. Today being an RN will pay 100k but in 10 years it will probably pay much less. I can even tell you that in 20 to 30 years time there will probably be a decline in the field do to many baby boomers will die off and the population behind them is much smaller. But making 100k in Ca is like making 50 to 60k else where due to the cost of living.
Just like you said supply and demand. Today being an RN will pay 100k but in 10 years it will probably pay much less. I can even tell you that in 20 to 30 years time there will probably be a decline in the field do to many baby boomers will die off and the population behind them is much smaller. But making 100k in Ca is like making 50 to 60k else where due to the cost of living.
Hard to say... you find RN's in many different related fields other than Hospital Work...
Everything from Public Health Nurses, School Nurses, Medical Insurance Industry, Education, Industrial Nursing and Government Licensing organizations... not to mention the Penal System.
The trend toward lower patient ratios and the large number of Nurses age 50 plus does indicate Nursing will be a good career choice for some time...
Interesting that many on the home grown nurses don't encourage nursing to their children... at least to the degree of foreign born Nurses that push their children into the nursing...
You're right about Nursing paying less in other areas... Colleagues thinking of relocating were shocked to see the low wages RN's earn in Washington, Oregon and Utah... although, still well paying by area standards.
Regarding healthcare, I have trouble believing that new grad RNs START at 100K anywhere, including San Francisco. The highest paid RNs at the Brigham in Boston get up in the low 100s, but don't start there.
Also, remember you don't have to go to four years of college for an RN. You can go to a hospital school for two years (if there are any left near you) or a community college for two years, and get an A.D. Everyone takes the same RN boards.
I started at 90K. My base pay now is a little over 100K ... 120K with overtime. If you don't believe it ... whatever.
As for the two year situation ... there are no hospital diploma programs anymore (at least that I'm aware of.) And community colleges typically now require at least two years of courses just to get into nursing school so ... it ends up being four years.
Just like you said supply and demand. Today being an RN will pay 100k but in 10 years it will probably pay much less. I can even tell you that in 20 to 30 years time there will probably be a decline in the field do to many baby boomers will die off and the population behind them is much smaller.
Not according to the Department of Health and Human Services ... which projects 800,000 vacancies by the year 2020.
The demand for registered nurses across the country will outpace supply through 2020. A 7 percent shortfall nationally of Registered Nurses (RNs) in 2005 is expected to jump to nearly 30 percent by 2020, translating into a shortage of more than 800,000 nurses nationally (figure 1). Among the factors driving demand are a rapidly growing population—with much of the growth occurring in the elderly population—and medical advances that increase the need for nurses
As for 100K in California being the same as 50K elsewhere due to the cost of living ... that's probably true in some cases but ... nursing allows me to live on the California coast. I absolutely love it here.
So these jobs would be:
Accounting
Economist
Financial Analyst
Computer Programmer
Auditor/Actuary
Chemist
Pharmacist
Doctor
Teacher/Professor
Statistician
IT has lost of ton of jobs in this recession. Besides, they continue to ship those jobs off to India.
You need to look at the actual supply and demand data, and whether the job can be exported overseas because ... if they can, they will.
Medical jobs are safe for now, but they depend on government and insurance payments to keep all those people employed. With half a million people losing jobs every month, the insurance companies are going to fight harder for every dime to fight declining enrollments, and with all the financial problems the government is fighting, you can bet that fee increases won't keep up with the big inflation that's looming on the horizon.
Medicine has boomed and gotten too expensive for us to afford, and sooner or later the prices will need to come down.
Medical jobs are safe for now, but they depend on government and insurance payments to keep all those people employed. With half a million people losing jobs every month, the insurance companies are going to fight harder for every dime to fight declining enrollments, and with all the financial problems the government is fighting, you can bet that fee increases won't keep up with the big inflation that's looming on the horizon.
Medicine has boomed and gotten too expensive for us to afford, and sooner or later the prices will need to come down.
The headline of that article talks about sheriff layoffs but, the text says they're only considering layoffs ... not that they've actually done it. I'd be surprized to see it actually happen.
There probably isn't any totally safe job in this economy but ... I can say I'm still gainfully employed making good money in the medical field. Since this recession is so bad ... it's probably a pretty good test of what's going to survive in the future.
As the Wall St. Journal reported ...
As the number of employees on nonfarm payrolls fell by more than two million between Dec. ‘07 and Dec. ‘08, the health care sector added more than 30,000 jobs.
That included more than 14,000 jobs in ambulatory health-care services, nearly 12,000 hospital jobs, 5,000 jobs in home health services and another 5,500 in residential care facilities and nursing homes.
With the aging population and the likelihood of billions of new federal dollars being directed toward health care, it seems pretty safe to expect the growth to continue.
IT has lost of ton of jobs in this recession. Besides, they continue to ship those jobs off to India.
You need to look at the actual supply and demand data, and whether the job can be exported overseas because ... if they can, they will.
How many jobs has IT lost as a result of the recession?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
