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Old 11-23-2021, 07:34 AM
 
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I disagree with this point as well. That was one area - the vast majority of the homes in the area came after the 1930s (Tweed opened in 1931 and sits on about 400 acres covering more than just that side of Lighthouse Point). Nice hedge with the last sentence, but the point still stands that there was very little around Tweed when it was first built.

Tweed isn't trying to be a JFK. It is trying to be a first-class regional airport that's focused on a currently underserved market undergoing an economic restructuring after decades of deindustrialization.

Looking forward to stopping by G-Cafe and of course checking out the new terminal when it's finished a few years from now.
Many or most airports affect residential neighborhoods nationwide, it's just the way it is and there isn't anything anyone can do about it.
When you take off and land out of HPN and Hartford, you're very low altitude over some very rich neighborhoods with stately homes and fancy inground pools with oblong shapes. You can make out the expensive masonry and manicured landscaping those people had hired out.

 
Old 11-23-2021, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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That one area is the area of the flight paths (landing) and is the area that would be directly impacted should operations expand further. The area between Huntington in New Haven and just west of Charter Oak in East Haven was developed in the 20s, as was much of the point area directly west of the north/south runway. That’s a big area that was already developed and/or privately owned before even the groundbreaking of Tweed.

Don’t get me wrong - I’m fully in support of Tweed flourishing. It’s bridged a gap that Southern Connecticut has had for a long time, but the “Tweed was there before it’s neighbors” argument isn’t exactly true. Saying that makes it sound as if suburban 90s McMansions were built there, when the reality is the entire area was developed in the 20s and 30s - both commercial and residential. Any local historian can confirm this.
You are right that there are a lot of homes in the area from the 1920-1930’s but also there are many from post-World War II. I do know the home that was hit by a plane from Tweed several years ago was post-war. That area was farmland back at the beginning of the 20th Century. The New Haven side developed rapidly in the 20’s but was delayed by the Depression and then the war. After that it was infill with leftover farmland subdivided. Jay
 
Old 11-23-2021, 07:41 AM
 
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Sean Scanlon, executive director of Tweed’s airport authority, said this week a study by Tweed showed there are about a million people in what it considers its market: south of Middletown and Meriden; east to Old Saybrook and west to Fairfield.

“Statistically, those million people more often than not go to New York to fly and not to Bradley,” Scanlon said. “So we don’t really view this as a competition with Bradley. Yeah, in some sense, maybe it would be, but we’re not looking at them as where we are going to take from. It’s more about a two-airport strategy for Connecticut.”


https://www.courant.com/business/hc-...vbq-story.html
Tweeds director is absolutely right and on point that people would prefer it over NY airports including HPN in some cases. HPN are genereally higher priced.
Even Rich Richman in Westport would prefer to fly down to Boca from Tweed than LGA. The limo driver would appreciate it.
 
Old 11-23-2021, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Fairfield
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Given the heavy traffic on I95 thru FFC and NH, Tweed's director is very wrong about FFC travelers preferring Tweed over NY airports.
Ah yes, because NYC traffic is so light.
 
Old 11-23-2021, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Given the heavy traffic on I95 thru FFC and NH, Tweed's director is very wrong about FFC travelers preferring Tweed over NY airports.
I think you misinterpreted his point. The Tweed director was referring more to the underserved market and how FFC travelers (especially those who live in places like Stratford and Shelton) would prefer a fully serviceable Tweed instead of traveling to NYC.

His larger point was that most folks along the shoreline travel to NYC-area airports not Bradley - that's based on evidence as well. Bradley isn't even centrally located so there's room for both Bradley and Tweed in CT).
 
Old 11-23-2021, 11:51 AM
 
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You are right that there are a lot of homes in the area from the 1920-1930’s but also there are many from post-World War II. I do know the home that was hit by a plane from Tweed several years ago was post-war. That area was farmland back at the beginning of the 20th Century. The New Haven side developed rapidly in the 20’s but was delayed by the Depression and then the war. After that it was infill with leftover farmland subdivided. Jay
That’s correct. The Charter Oak neighborhood was developed in the 40s and 50s. But nearly the entire area west of that (just north of the main runway and nearly all homes south and east of Tweed) were developed just prior to or at the same time as the airport. Many of those homes have been demolished or refurbished but many are still standing and are small but very stunning. That’s why I don’t think it’s fair to make the claim Tweed was there before residential development. That’s just simply not true.
 
Old 11-23-2021, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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That’s correct. The Charter Oak neighborhood was developed in the 40s and 50s. But nearly the entire area west of that (just north of the main runway and nearly all homes south and east of Tweed) were developed just prior to or at the same time as the airport. Many of those homes have been demolished or refurbished but many are still standing and are small but very stunning. That’s why I don’t think it’s fair to make the claim Tweed was there before residential development. That’s just simply not true.
Let it go - we'll agree to disagree here. The expansion within the same footprint might I add is a done deal. No eminent domain here.
 
Old 11-23-2021, 03:24 PM
 
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Let it go - we'll agree to disagree here. The expansion within the same footprint might I add is a done deal. No eminent domain here.
We’re having a discussion on the development surrounding Tweed in the 20s and 30s. Participate if you’d like, but you don’t get to dictate what’s posted.
 
Old 11-23-2021, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Please stop the bickering and return to the topic of the OP which is the Economic Climate of the state. JayCT, Moderator
 
Old 11-23-2021, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Given the heavy traffic on I95 thru FFC and NH, Tweed's director is very wrong about FFC travelers preferring Tweed over NY airports.
Uh, no. Fairfield (the western border of his sample size) to Tweed is wayyyy easier than NYC airports. Full stop.
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