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Old 10-13-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Boise States strength of schedule is no where near Ohio State's. Or Nebraska. TCU plays a tougher scehdule too.

Anyone that says Boise plays a comparable schedule to Ohio State is crazy.

Ohio State would beat VaTech or Boise by 21. They would beat Oregon State by 14. Nebraska wouldn't exactly have trouble with those teams either.
And drop one to Purdue.
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Old 10-13-2010, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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And drop one to Purdue.

So? What's wrong with losing to a conference opponent?

It happens to everyone. Ask Florida or USC.
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Old 10-13-2010, 03:58 PM
 
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Operative word there is "would." Everyone thought Alabama would beat Utah too. "Would" does not necessarily translate to "does." That is why the game is played.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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Operative word there is "would." Everyone thought Alabama would beat Utah too. "Would" does not necessarily translate to "does." That is why the game is played.
I predicted Utah was gonna beat Alabama by 21.

Past games demonstrate when the mid-majors play the BCS teams the mid-majors lose. The games are played.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:01 PM
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If you look at some of these schools they often play 3 BCS schools a year. For instance, Akron played Syracuse, Indiana and Kentucky this year. Lost all 3.

My point is when mid-majors do play BCS teams they almost always lose. So why would anyone think they deserve a high ranking or a shot at a playoff?

I'm not anti-mid major. I went to a MAC school. I'm just living in reality. The mid-majors cannot compete. They have proven it over and over.
Maybe the majority of the time, the Big Boys win.... but that doesn't mean they never compete (i.e., just take a look at the Mid-Majors everyone is trashing now that IS making ground).

And really, it doesn't matter.... The fact that there's really no fair shot at a NATIONAL TITLE just says it all. The whole "every game is a playoff" thing is only given to the BCS schools. And even when there's a school outside of that box, they're not given any shot. Even if they finish undefeated. They don't go to the NCG.

No, they play another undefeated Non-AQ school in a throw away game like last year's Fiesta Bowl, and don't get the chance to actually prove anything other than the fact that they were the best Non-AQ team that year.....
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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Operative word there is "would." Everyone thought Alabama would beat Utah too. "Would" does not necessarily translate to "does." That is why the game is played.

Exactly. Boise beat Oregon last year, easily, was not even close. Nobody thought Utah would slaughter Alabama the way they did, in a hostile environment. I think Boise and TCU beat Ohio State on a neutral field, otherwise theyre close.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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Maybe the majority of the time, the Big Boys win.... but that doesn't mean they never compete (i.e., just take a look at the Mid-Majors everyone is trashing now that IS making ground).

And really, it doesn't matter.... The fact that there's really no fair shot at a NATIONAL TITLE just says it all. The whole "every game is a playoff" thing is only given to the BCS schools. And even when there's a school outside of that box, they're not given any shot. Even if they finish undefeated. They don't go to the NCG.

No, they play another undefeated Non-AQ school in a throw away game like last year's Fiesta Bowl, and don't get the chance to actually prove anything other than the fact that they were the best Non-AQ team that year.....
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Louisville got left out of the BCS title game in 2006. WVU in 2007. Auburn in 2005. Ohio State in 1998. Cincinnati last year. Missouri got locked out of a BCS game in 2007. Wisconsin has been denied a couple times. I can't even remember how many deserving PAC-10 teams have been left out. Texas Tech got hosed in 2008. So did Texas.

I'd say MORE BCS teams have been screwed than mid-majors. But it's only the mid-majors that cry about it. (And Auburn).

There is no fair shot for anyone. All you can do is win your games and hope everyone else loses. That's it.

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Old 10-13-2010, 04:22 PM
 
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Exactly. Boise beat Oregon last year, easily, was not even close. Nobody thought Utah would slaughter Alabama the way they did, in a hostile environment. I think Boise and TCU beat Ohio State on a neutral field, otherwise theyre close.
I wouldn't say the Boise/Oregon game wasn't even close. Boise won by 11 with Oregon hanging around well into the fourth quarter in a very ugly, sloppy game. I know it's a minor point but lets not act like they put them away in the first quarter.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:23 PM
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Louisville got left out of the BCS title game in 2006. WVU in 2007. Auburn in 2005. Ohio State in 1998. Cincinnati last year. Missouri got locked out of a BCS game in 2007. Wisconsin has been denied a couple times. I can't even remember how many deserving PAC-10 teams have been left out. Texas Tech got hosed in 2008. So did Texas.

I'd say MORE BCS teams have been screwed than mid-majors. But it's only the mid-majors that cry about it. (And Auburn).

There is no fair shot for anyone. All you can do is win your games and hope everyone else loses. That's it.

And yet, all those teams you listed STILL have more of a shot to go to the game than any undefeated Mid-Major does.

Call it "crying" all you want. It's still B.S. And there's still no way to justify it. Also, even if both BSU and TCU finish undefeated and everyone else loses, someone will still find a way to keep them out.

This system isn't about competition. It's just about money and marketing. Of course, fans of BCS schools couldn't care less, but that's fine.
It'll end one day....
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:27 PM
 
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Louisville got left out of the BCS title game in 2006. WVU in 2007. Auburn in 2005. Ohio State in 1998. Cincinnati last year. Missouri got locked out of a BCS game in 2007. Wisconsin has been denied a couple times. I can't even remember how many deserving PAC-10 teams have been left out. Texas Tech got hosed in 2008. So did Texas.

I'd say MORE BCS teams have been screwed than mid-majors. But it's only the mid-majors that cry about it. (And Auburn).

There is no fair shot for anyone. All you can do is win your games and hope everyone else loses. That's it.
There were also a couple years where USC was likely the best team in the country except they would blow their case by losing to marginal Stanford or Oregon State teams. Deserving AQ schools definitely get the shaft more often than the mid-majors.

Several years ago the mid-majors did get shafted because they were not allowed to compete, however, it seems in recent years the pendulum has swung the other way. The current system, while far from perfect, is more friendly to the mid-majors than any format in the modern era. TCU, Hawaii, Boise State, and Utah do not step foot into the "BCS" bowls under the old system. It's not like we're regressing.

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