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And they're easily some of the most dangerous in the whole country. Hoover Foster aka "Ghost Town" in West Oakland is visually some of the worst **** you'll see on the west coast.
These really weren't good choices as examples of what is ghetto "visually" in Oakland and Richmond. Google Maps doesn't really show things the way they look in person. Look at SSF and Daly City for example:
The Oakland and Richmond pics don't really look much worse than these right here for the most part, but we all know that DC and SSF are a far cry from either of those two cities. Google maps can fool you. (The first link is mislabeled and is in SSF.)
These really weren't good choices as examples of what is ghetto "visually" in Oakland and Richmond. Google Maps doesn't really show things the way they look in person. Look at SSF and Daly City for example:
The Oakland and Richmond pics don't really look much worse than these right here for the most part, but we all know that DC and SSF are a far cry from either of those two cities. Google maps can fool you. (The first link is mislabeled and is in SSF.)
I have an uncle that used to live in dogtown and I know all of West Oakland fairly well. Ghost Town looks the worst from what I've seen... and no google maps doesn't convey it well but there's no photos of any of it so...
And the reason I primarily used west oakland and east oakland by lake meritt is because it's the only area in the bay that has the old victorians that'll look familiar to these east coasters... lol. Obviously DEO looks as bad visually as anything that's been brought up in this thread but the east coasters will spot the "palm trees" and say that it must be lily white
And I'm from the Peninsula (RWC) but currently live in Oakland (Dimond District near the 7 Eleven). The peninsula don't really got nothing that looks like Oakland (or Richmond for that matter).
EDIT: And idk what you mean by not good choices... it doesn't get much more "ghetto" in Richmond than in North Richmond. as for the oakland shots I could've linked to Seminary or Sobrante Park or Castlemont or any number of areas but they'll just think that its a bay area compton (palm trees and green lawns)
Ghost Town looks the worst from what I've seen... and no google maps doesn't convey it well but there's no photos of any of it so...
I agree. I almost moved about 7 blocks from there 8 or 9 years ago and thought twice when I drove through Ghost Town. It was much worse then than it is now though. I think Dog Town was just as bad visually, before at least, and the Lower Bottoms was right there as well.
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And the reason I primarily used west oakland and east oakland by lake meritt is because it's the only area in the bay that has the old victorians that'll look familiar to these east coasters... lol. Obviously DEO looks as bad visually as anything that's been brought up in this thread but the east coasters will spot the "palm trees" and say that it must be lily white
Lol I feel you. But don't bother trying to present anything to them visually. The annoying, judgmental ones have their minds made up already and seem to think bricks are scary and single-family homes are completely safe no matter what condition they're in. (Kinda negates the whole concept of a "crack house," but whatever. ) And palm trees?? How could there be any danger at all if there are palm trees around?? (That mentality gets on my nerves b/c its completely idiotic.)
The open-minded ones that actually have a clue aren't going to really be able to tell much from photos either. There aren't too many pics online of NorCal ghettos, and you really have to BE in them to get what's scary about them. Its a difference in mentality too b/c a lot of times East Coasters seem to associate large, tall buildings with being dangerous while most of our projects are 2 or 3-stories and decrepit. Just a difference in what each of us are accustomed to. I think more East Coasters would find the TL intimidating visually and HP not so much, while you already know what the deal is with us out here.
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And I'm from the Peninsula (RWC) but currently live in Oakland (Dimond District near the 7 Eleven). The peninsula don't really got nothing that looks like Oakland (or Richmond for that matter).
Same here (I was born in RWC ) and no, it dont. That's why I used those examples b/c those areas aren't anywhere near Oakland's and Richmond's levels but if you've never seen any of these areas and just looked at Google Maps they don't look terribly different from each other IMO.
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EDIT: And idk what you mean by not good choices... it doesn't get much more "ghetto" in Richmond than in North Richmond. as for the oakland shots I could've linked to Seminary or Sobrante Park or Castlemont or any number of areas but they'll just think that its a bay area compton (palm trees and green lawns)
No no, I wasn't saying the locations weren't good examples (or at least those hoods - those particular blocks weren't really the worst in those hoods). I just meant that what was shown there by Google Maps weren't the best examples. North Richmond is one of the worst hoods in this nation, and I'm in no way downplaying that. I just meant that "visually," if you have never been out here before and are used to older, more rundown looking hoods, those shots were not bad looking at all really. Not your fault, just that Google Maps makes it look way nicer than it does in reality. That's all.
I know how rare it is to find any pics of our really rougher areas, especially Oakland or Richmond, but I posted some pics a while back that I think are probably a little bit better examples. Here's a couple of them for SF:
Now THAT'S a good example of what I call GHETTO! The NYC hoods most people say are so scary usually don't really look all that bad to me (Harlem, LIC/QB, etc.) b/c its usually just a bunch of brick buildings that look the same and aren't all that rundown. That's why I always think that Philly, Baltimore and Camden look much worse. This right here is a VERY GOOD example of what a ghetto looks like and is visually much worse than most of those others (although some of the BK ones look pretty bad like East NY and Bed-Stuy.) But yours has that more desolate look too it that I would definitely be uncomfortable in. No wonder you want out lol!
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) and no, it dont. That's why I used those examples b/c those areas aren't anywhere near Oakland's and Richmond's levels but if you've never seen any of these areas and just looked at Google Maps they don't look terribly different from each other IMO.
