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Man it's wild that Chicago only really has one within the city limits. There's a long wall of high-rises extending north and south from downtown, but it's basically (afaik) all residential. Kinda Canadian-feeling now that I think about it.
When I think of a second employment hub within the city, the O'Hare area is honestly the first place that comes to mind (and part of that area is in Rosemont, not Chicago proper). And the taller buildings there are mostly 8-10 stories (sorta DC-like), and the area is not walkable at all.
Maybe Hyde Park is the actual closest thing Chicago has to a second downtown.
Chicago technically has two "downtown" (The Loop and River North), but the latter is an extension of the former, making it one giant cluster. It's similar to Atlanta's "Downtown" (Five Points / Peachtree Center) and Midtown forming one cluster. Atlanta has Buckhead area while there's nothing equivalent in Chicago.
Chicago does have a fair amount of suburban office cluster, but as other said, they don't really form a "downtown". Schaumburg, Evanston, Naperville, etc.
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Originally Posted by Fly Dragon
Houston has 4 major skylines (Downtown, Uptown, Greenway, and the TMC) and multiple smaller ones well outside the 610 loop.
Uptown is the only one that can be somewhat consider a "secondary downtown". Greenway is basically a giant office complex, and TMC is just not "business" enough (It's essentially a bunch of hospitals and research facilities).
I hope you're not trying to imply that Uptown, Greenway and TMC are "downtowns" just because they have a few tall buildings.
“Few tall buildings.” You clearly know nothing about the scale of Uptown Houston. For all intents and purposes it really does act as a second CBD in the region.
“Few tall buildings.” You clearly know nothing about the scale of Uptown Houston. For all intents and purposes it really does act as a second CBD in the region.
What is this even supposed to show? I swear this forum's obsession with highrises is hilarious sometimes.
If we're reducing the definition of "downtown" to strip malls with massive surface parking lots, highways and office buildings, then every city has "multiple downtowns." Or do the buildings have to be a certain height?
Not sure if Dallas proper has separate CBDs. All the areas north of downtown are basically now extensions of downtown. Technically, it is separate with the downtown submarket and the Uptown/Turtle Creek submarket (all the urban areas north of Downtown, south of the Park Cities). The only place outside of downtown that has a large concentrated amount of office space is Preston Center and that’s office park-y ATM. Plans are to change it into a more West Village type area like in Uptown Dallas, but that’s yearsssssss away from making a real impact or change in the area.
Edit: At one time, the Jefferson Blvd corridor and Bishop Arts District in Oak Cliff was considered to be a 2nd CBD for Dallas. It was Texas’ first 2nd downtown area. But it declined severely during white flight in the early 70s as America suburbanized. It was only 2nd to downtown Dallas in sale tax generation. No one really see it that way today, but the bones are still there. It’s making a comeback with all the gentrification occurring there. During its peak in 1965, an office building was built there called the Oak Cliff Bank Tower. Less than 10 years later, the area was being redlined as blacks began moving in.
Counts. Memorial has a growing skyline. It's not a corporate park.
It is absolutely a corporate park. Not a satellite CBD. Those buildings are spaced out relatively far from eachother. City Centre is a self contained lifestyle center. Where the Memorial Town Center area is it’s really more of an edge city serving the surrounding region that way than a Houston secondary downtown. Uptown and TMC are actually satellite CBDs serving Houston, not the suburbs.
What is this even supposed to show? I swear this forum's obsession with highrises is hilarious sometimes.
If we're reducing the definition of "downtown" to strip malls with massive surface parking lots, highways and office buildings, then every city has "multiple downtowns." Or do the buildings have to be a certain height?
Or maybe the fact that Uptown Houston has over 28 million sqft of Office Space (17th in the US and comparable to Downtown Denver and Atlanta) and single-handedly takes up 22% of Houston’s Class A office space. The district also has over 6 million square feet of retail and is home to most of Houston’s luxury shopping scene. The neighborhood is home to many companies like PNC, CBRE, Burns & McDonnell, Hines, Marathon Oil, Schlumberger, LyondellBassell, Woodside Energy, etc. The district has most of Houston’s luxury hotels and accounts for 12% of total hotels in the region. It also is almost equal to Houston’s actual downtown in hotel revenue. It literally has its own inflow and outflow commuting patterns as well. For all intents and purposes it literally acts as a second downtown to the region. Just because you can’t understand the dynamics of the region doesn’t mean you need to be intentionally obtuse.
It’s not all that urban but the role the neighborhood plays would absolutely make it a secondary Downtown to the region.
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