Which Northeast city would be best for a black middle class family? (crime, places)
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So, this is an area with a long time black community and one with businesses that would appeal to families.
Also, previously mentioned communities such as Hillcrest and the Haverstraws are also in Rockland County. for instance, here is a restaurant in the Haverstraw area: Big Daddy's Homeplate BBQ Big Daddy's Homeplate BBQ
I wish more of us would take advantage of the city instead of moving to the suburbs or out of state. There's plenty of safe and quiet neighborhoods in the city for us to live comfortable with a family. Public schools are the only drawback, but with that income it's not hard to put your child in private school or bus them to charter. I'd move to Mt. Airy if I could afford to, it kicks the hell out of Cheltenham. The northwest section of the city is full of high income black neighborhoods, it's the most underrated area of the city and my favorite.
I wish more of us would take advantage of the city instead of moving to the suburbs or out of state. There's plenty of safe and quiet neighborhoods in the city for us to live comfortable with a family. Public schools are the only drawback, but with that income it's not hard to put your child in private school or bus them to charter. I'd move to Mt. Airy if I could afford to, it kicks the hell out of Cheltenham. The northwest section of the city is full of high income black neighborhoods, it's the most underrated area of the city and my favorite.
In combination with QOL/COL/schools/crime, I think alot of black folks abandon our urban neighborhoods simply because outdated perceptions and ignorance. Because of this website, I'm now aware of various cities and what they can offer black residents but the average black person will prefer the suburbs or more suburban style cities just because.
In combination with QOL/COL/schools/crime, I think alot of black folks abandon our urban neighborhoods simply because outdated perceptions and ignorance. Because of this website, I'm now aware of various cities and what they can offer black residents but the average black person will prefer the suburbs or more suburban style cities just because.
You ain't wrong.
This Common line aways resonates with me
"Ask my guy how he thought traveling the world sound
Found it hard to imagine he hadn't been past downtown"
That's what they ultimately want; for us to move out the cities so they can pour investment into it and make it their own. (I assume we know who "they" is referring to)
In combination with QOL/COL/schools/crime, I think alot of black folks abandon our urban neighborhoods simply because outdated perceptions and ignorance. Because of this website, I'm now aware of various cities and what they can offer black residents but the average black person will prefer the suburbs or more suburban style cities just because.
I would say that Mount Airy in Philadelphia is an exception to that rule.
I think I mentioned its history way upthread, but its historical claim to fame is that its white residents, rather than fleeing as Blacks started moving into it from Germantown to its south, decided they would fight the real estate industry practices that encouraged such flight and welcome their new neighbors as integral members of the community.
Overall, Mt. Airy is about 65% Black and 35% White. If you remove its more working-class/lower-middle-class southeast quadrant from the mix, the ratio moves to about 50-50, and the remaining population is quite affluent, as the stats for that Census tract show.
But you might be surprised to find out where pockets of affluence pop up. The East Germantown Census tract I live in has a median household income in the upper $20s, but there's a block group in it about six blocks from where I live, on the other side of Chew Avenue and a block or two in from both it and Chelten Avenue, where the incomes shoot up dramatically; you don't see the MHI figures for this Census tract because (I believe) it contains too few households to allow data to be released without being able to identify individual households. But our local public media outlet, WHYY, did a story on this pocket of East Germantown four years ago as part of its series "Gentrified: Notes from a Changing Philadelphia":
I tell people that segregation in Philadelphia has a patchwork-quilt quality to it: instead of vast swaths of the city where only one race can be found, the more common pattern is this group in this neighborhood, that group in the one next to it, and so on. So, in some places, does economic stratification. Where I live is one of them.
BTW, I'm also acquainted with Marc Lamont Hill, who's also quoted in that article and lives in this pocket. He's also one of the co-authors of a rather dense academic tome called "Gentrifier' and the proprietor of the coolest coffee shop and bookstore in the city, right on Germantown's historic Market Square. Some of you, I suspect, may have heard of him.
Last edited by MarketStEl; 04-04-2022 at 05:29 PM..
In places where the suburbs are too long of a commute or the suburbs are too white the city remains desirable to us but unaffordable. Folks move out.
In cites that are more affordable the suburbs also tend to be affordable and crime and the perception of crime in the city tends to be higher. Folks move out.
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