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Most black people don't live in an integrated thriving metropolis with heavily blurred cultural line like Houston. You need only go eats to the Mississippi Delta to a complete 180. I may have a Boston and Baltimore bias where I see starker cultural/economic/societal divides than is the 'norm' you may have a HOuston bias where you don't see as large a cultural divide as is the norm. I think that's very plausible
If you look at sheer numbers of African-Americans by state and metro area, and think of the steadily increasing affluence in the community and its residential/geographic impacts, the African-American "experience" as lived today is probably as commonly NigerianNightmare's as it is the picture you're painting of impoverished Mississippi Delta towns or crumbling segregated inner city hoods.
Let me ask you this what exactly are the major cultural and economic differences between anglo and french canadians. I dotn think your considering the full picture
Whats the wealth gap between French and AngloCandians?
Whats the homeownership gap between French and AngloCandians?
Whats the education gap between French and AngloCandians?
Whats the life expectancy gap between French and AngloCandians?
How does family structure French and Anglo Canadians?
We had all of this for sure, up until the 1960s and even into the 1970s.
On most metrics where you'd want to catch up, we've pretty much caught up since that time. (Being socio-economically disadvantaged may help forge an identity, but it's not "an identity" per se.) France, Germany and the UK are still different and foreign to each other even if their standard of living is very similar.
Quebec still differs from the rest of Canada in a lot of ways.
In terms of family structure, common law relationships are the standard in Quebec whereas in the rest of Canada most couples get married. Quebec women who do get married keep their married names - it's the law. Whereas in the rest of Canada the usual practice is to take their husband's name. Similarly to what you see in the Nordic countries, most babies born in Quebec are born out of wedlock. The rate in the rest of Canada is less than half what it is in Quebec.
People in Quebec have different attitudes towards organized religion- generally quite hostile. Attitudes towards sex and alcohol tend to be more relaxed and laws and social norms generally reflect that. Views on whether it's more important to do what makes you happy vs. doing one's duty are also quite different between Quebecers and other Canadians, with the former being more hedonistic and the latter being more duty-oriented.
And this is perfectly acceptable Saturday/Sunday morning cartoon fare on over-the-air TV channels in Quebec:
If you look at sheer numbers of African-Americans by state and metro area, and think of the steadily increasing affluence in the community and its residential/geographic impacts, the African-American "experience" as lived today is probably as commonly NigerianNightmare's as it is the picture you're painting of impoverished Mississippi Delta towns or crumbling segregated inner city hoods.
African American homeownership is at an all time low
our net worth has decreased since the 1980s
and we've only been seeing income gains for the past maybe 6 years.
Nothing steady about what your saying. Were just getting back to 1999/2000 levels of income.
So you're saying that the growth of African-American middle and upper classes over the past couple of decades is a myth? Or at least that there is a decline in the numbers or percentages of African-Americans who are middle or upper class? (Serious question.)
On most metrics where you'd want to catch up, we've pretty much caught up since that time. (Being socio-economically disadvantaged may help forge an identity, but it's not "an identity" per se.) France, Germany and the UK are still different and foreign to each other even if their standard of living is very similar.
Quebec still differs from the rest of Canada in a lot of ways.
In terms of family structure, common law relationships are the standard in Quebec whereas in the rest of Canada most couples get married. Quebec women who do get married keep their married names - it's the law. Whereas in the rest of Canada the usual practice is to take their husband's name. Similarly to what you see in the Nordic countries, most babies born in Quebec are born out of wedlock. The rate in the rest of Canada is less than half what it is in Quebec.
People in Quebec have different attitudes towards organized religion- generally quite hostile. Attitudes towards sex and alcohol tend to be more relaxed and laws and social norms generally reflect that. Views on whether it's more important to do what makes you happy vs. doing one's duty are also quite different between Quebecers and other Canadians, with the former being more hedonistic and the latter being more duty-oriented.
And this is perfectly acceptable Saturday/Sunday morning cartoon fare on over-the-air TV channels in Quebec:
Not so in the rest of Canada, nor in the USA of course.
all that very interesting and insightful. Thank you.
Most of what you said about family structure is similar to how the vast majority of Black children are born out of wedlock, andi ts a matriarchal system with more emphasis on extended families.
All in all-to me- French Canadians seem equivalent to African Americans in difference based off what you've said here.
Recreational interest and socio economic standing seem to be more inline with the dominant group than African Americans and the of course there's the elephant in the room-skin color which plays a big par tin how individual are treated before they even speak and reveal their language of origin.
Language is a bigger barrier there but certainly can be a barrier to success/perception for many african americans here. Government is also more seperate up there, but asi said previously there are black dominated jurisdictions with black leaders as well who can pass laws on their own.
So you're saying that the growth of African-American middle and upper classes over the past couple of decades is a myth? Or at least that there is a decline in the numbers or percentages of African-Americans who are middle or upper class? (Serious question.)
Its not a myth but the income/wealth gap between white and african american has absolutely grown over the past 30 years. That objective. African Americans in poverty have sunken deeper into poverty and homelessness
Houston is very much an exception. Some sunbelt cities are doing well but black sin the rest of the country and parts of the deepest south are not doing well-thats why were moving there.
It's not just the delta or Baltimore. Its most midwestern states, and northeastern states
When on city data keep in mind you're generally talking to a highly educated, highly mobile and highly informed cross section of any given population. We talk a lot about cities in the sunbelt that are great for African Americans and we talk to highly intelligent individuals. Note that Nigerian Nightmare is in the less than 1%of his engineering class that black-and he's Nigerian born-that should tell you a good deal about black progress in and of itself.
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