City and Metro homicides 2020 (state, rates, crime rate, compared)

[Denlogy]

Originally Posted by jayo2k

Isn't that a lot for Boston?

Boston with its demographics and poverty levels compared to similar cities should average 80-120 a year but the city isnt at all active like that

I mean the highest the city ever had was like 150 during the crack epidemic which isnt even a high record. Cities today in 2020 are easily hitting that.

Boston overall is just a really safe city. I predict within 5-10 years with more gentrification it will max out in tbe 20-30’s for here on out

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by Denlogy

Boston with its demographics and poverty levels compared to similar cities should average 80-120 a year but the city isnt at all active like that

I mean the highest the city ever had was like 150 during the crack epidemic which isnt even a high record. Cities today in 2020 are easily hitting that.

Boston overall is just a really safe city. I predict within 5-10 years with more gentrification it will max out in tbe 20-30’s for here on out

Bostons peak homicide rate was 26 per 100k which is comparable with NYCs (and others) peak at 30 per 100k.

You’re the same guy who said this year would finish with 40 homicides. We have 5 months left and hit that mark. Any predictions you have are I’m most likely innaccurate.. Boston homicides peaking in the 20s in 5-10 years? Not even feasible.

Overall, the city is quite ‘active’. Last night: https://twitter.com/liveboston617/st...169869312?s=21 “ walk up shooting victim... According to witnesses he entered the shop, ordered a coffee, paid and then proceeded to then request a ride to the hospital.” Mundane stuff like this just isn’t reported in the paper.

There is a shooting/stabbing or ‘shots fired‘ call virtually every single day in Boston. I figure the low homicide rate comes from :

-Being one of the founders of the crime prevention/community policing model in the 1990s. Boston spearheaded and does still spearhead those efforts

-high immigrant population. 29% foreign born. Cities with high immigrant populations usually have low homicide rates.

-Massachusetts and states immediately to the south ah e the strictest star gun laws around. This creates poor access to firearms

-Poor quality of gun on Boston’s streets. As a result of limited firearms access Often dated and antiquated small revolver and plastic pistols like Hi Points and Glocks. These ar bought from private seller and gun show a in Vermont and New Hampshire. Terribly in accurate, prone to jamming. Smalller rounds and clips

-Density/availability of quality trauma care/ERs. Small dense city with tons of hospitals. EMT response times are rapid.

-Cold, snowy weather. Cold weather cities typically can’t top homicide rates. Not even Detroit or Chicago.

-Constant FBI raids. Beginning around 1995 and through today Bsoton has been subject to many FBI/aWtf raids and RICO cases.

-Sitting duck crews. generally The major crime players in Boston’s re many of the same gangs that have been around since the mid/late 1980s. We all know where they are, police keep very close tabs on them. It makes info and cooperation with the FBI/ATF very easy.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by Denlogy

Boston with its demographics and poverty levels compared to similar cities should average 80-120 a year but the city isnt at all active like that

I mean the highest the city ever had was like 150 during the crack epidemic which isnt even a high record. Cities today in 2020 are easily hitting that.

Boston overall is just a really safe city. I predict within 5-10 years with more gentrification it will max out in tbe 20-30’s for here on out

To put it more plainly... in the 4 months of March-July Boston had 560 people shot, or shots fired calls. Plus 45 stabbings. That’s 600+ shooting/stabbing incidents in 120 days. 90% of which happen in a 10 square mile area. https://twitter.com/stacos/status/12...684120064?s=21 aka, folks are active.

Seattle had 338 all of 2019. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ice-say/?amp=1

Dorchester the neighborhood is 1/7th Seattle’s population and 1/14th it’s land area (6 square miles) and has 10 more homicides than all of Seattle this year.

[MrPiedmontTriad]

Originally Posted by Chicagoland60426

Tuesday shooting in the Gold Coast neighborhood on the near north side leaves Chicago rapper dead and two others seriously hurt.

The rapper was known as FBG Duck, 27 years old. He was hit in the chest, groin, and neck.

Dammit man.

There is a video on youtube showing that he was still moving about on the ground. The shooting happened in broad day light. This is very sad, especially since he was one of those rappers that could have easily moved far away like other Chicago rappers who made it big.

Never heard of the dude.... he couldn't have been that big of a rapper.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by MrPiedmontTriad

Never heard of the dude.... he couldn't have been that big of a rapper.

He’s pretty well known

Just saw this on my FB feed“ Ayooo how tf everyone in Boston got smoke with FBG Duck now ?”

Everyone’s response. “Cuz we not from 63rd”

https://www.facebook.com/10004962472...869086603/?d=n

[Vincent_Adultman]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

To put it more plainly... in the 4 months of March-July Boston had 560 people shot, or shots fired calls. Plus 45 stabbings. That’s 600+ shooting/stabbing incidents in 120 days. 90% of which happen in a 10 square mile area. https://twitter.com/stacos/status/12...684120064?s=21 aka, folks are active.

Seattle had 338 all of 2019. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ice-say/?amp=1

Dorchester the neighborhood is 1/7th Seattle’s population and 1/14th it’s land area (6 square miles) and has 10 more homicides than all of Seattle this year.

Yes, and I think we've discussed in the past about how most of the worst parts of King County and the Seattle Metro are outside of Seattle proper. I can't find the 2019 number, but King County had a total of 80 murders in 2018, while only 32 of those were in Seattle.

And that doesn't even count places like Tacoma (in a different county, Pierce County, but 30 minutes south of Seattle and in the metro) which only has 200K people and according to BPt's stat already has nearly 20 murders.

So it really depends on how you slice and dice it and the dynamics of the metro area.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by Vincent_Adultman

Yes, and I think we've discussed in the past about how most of the worst parts of King County and the Seattle Metro are outside of Seattle proper. I can't find the 2019 number, but King County had a total of 80 murders in 2018, while only 32 of those were in Seattle.

And that doesn't even count places like Tacoma (in a different county, Pierce County, but 30 minutes south of Seattle and in the metro) which only has 200K people and according to BPt's stat already has nearly 20 murders.

So it really depends on how you slice and dice it and the dynamics of the metro area.

Yea just using Seattle as a good contrast to Boston proper. Boston isn’t the most violent city in the metro-let alone Massachusetts . As I’ve said many times before the gun violence is higher than most MA cities because it’s a historical/cultural thing more than anything.

Crime in other large cities (Lawrence Lynn Revere New Bedford Lowell) in the metro and state seem to be more random or drug related. And more face to face stabbings/assaults. Only Brockton and Chelsea seem to have all the random shots fired calls and heavy Entrenched gang activitY. Which makes sense as Brockton and Chelsea seem to be mostly populated by working class ex Bostonians. Thus they have higher crime rates AND higher homicide rates than Boston, generally.

[Vincent_Adultman]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Yea just using Seattle as a good contrast to Boston proper. Boston isn’t the most violent city in the metro-let alone Massachusetts . As I’ve said many times before the gun violence is higher than most MA cities because it’s a historical/cultural thing more than anything.

Crime in other large cities (Lawrence Lynn Revere New Bedford Lowell) in the metro and state seem to be more random or drug related. And more face to face stabbings/assaults. Only Brockton and Chelsea seem to have all the random shots fired calls and heavy Entrenched gang activitY. Which makes sense as Brockton and Chelsea seem to be mostly populated by working class ex Bostonians. Thus they have higher crime rates AND higher homicide rates than Boston, generally.

In Seattle a lot of the gang activity has been driven out of the city over the last 10-15 years, hence why smaller cities just south of Seattle like Tukwila and SeaTac have murder rates approaching 15.

But overall I think you would find a better contrast in a place like San Jose, which has over a million people and only 22 homicides so far this year (same number as Seattle but with 300K more people), and is by far the most dangerous city in its metro area/Silicon Valley. Or San Diego or Austin, which have similar murder rates to San Jose.

I was gonna throw Portland in but I'm still trying to figure out what the hell happened in Portland in July - 15 murders in a month for a city that has averaged about 25-30 murders a year over the last few years is bonkers.

[Denlogy]

Why bring up cities outside of Boston. They literally don’t put up ANY numbers. The 6-7 “bad” cities you guys always bring up have almost zero violence issues. The numbers are right on this website at least look before you mention them

Im not even trolling guys. Boston has barely any homicides in comparison. And it’s bad cities homicides are non existent and shootings rare

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by Denlogy

Why bring up cities outside of Boston. They literally don’t put up ANY numbers. The 6-7 “bad” cities you guys always bring up have almost zero violence issues. The numbers are right on this website at least look before you mention them

Im not even trolling guys. Boston has barely any homicides in comparison. And it’s bad cities homicides are non existent and shootings rare

Chelsea:
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/bl...dangerous-2013

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/u...ate-statistics

Brockton:

The 2018 crime rate in Brockton, MA is 369 (City-Data.com crime index), which is 1.3 times higher than the U.S. average. It was higher than in 89.8% U.S. cities. The 2018 Brockton crime rate fell by 5% compared to 2017. The number of homicides stood at 9. 10 per 100k.

Read more: https://www.city-data.com/crime/crim...achusetts.html

Lawrence:
https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/u...ate-statistics

The 2018 crime rate in Lawrence, MA is 228 (City-Data.com crime index), which is 1.2 times lower than the U.S. average. It was higher than in 73.0% U.S. cities. The 2018 Lawrence crime rate fell by 26% compared to 2017. The number of homicides stood at 5 - a decrease of 6 compared to 2017.[homicides rate of 13 per 100k in 2017]

Read more: https://www.city-data.com/crime/crim...achusetts.html

New Bedford: https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/u...ate-statistics

While crime has dramatically decreased since 2014 in most MA cities these places still have 2x the national rate of violent crime and until very recently had 4x the rate in most cases. The only one you could call safe is Lowell and even they had like 12 homicides last year. Mor than 2x the national average. But you got it...