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View Poll Results: Which city is most nationally and globally significant right now?
Boston 27 24.32%
Philadelphia 25 22.52%
San Francisco 59 53.15%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-05-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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Without SJ, SF loses and Philly wins. Philly got this one over SF
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Old 05-05-2016, 09:32 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Without SJ, SF loses and Philly wins. Philly got this one over SF

Without San Jose SF would do just fine. San Jose would just be more broken up suburb cities.


San Jose without San Francisco would be a Modesto.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Does this survey include the whole bay area or just San Francisco? A good chunk of the tech jobs are in San Jose, if you don't include San Jose in this list than I would argue that the Boston metro area is more influential than SF or Philly. If you include San Jose than San Francisco definitely wins.
I'm not a big believer in breaking up a region that's really functionally cohesive in reality for the sake of a comparison. San Jose is absolutely part of the equation and is functionally part of the Bay Area as a whole. I think of these three cities, San Francisco/Bay Area is the most influential domestically and internationally in most categories. I think Boston is number 2 and Philly is number 3.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Just found this interesting research from JLL Global City Momentum Index 2016:

Total of 120 Global Cities were covered. (including Philadelphia)

#5 Boston

#10 San Francisco

** Philadelphia not ranked **

http://www.jll.com/Research/City_Mom...2-a63070cb0282
Part of the reason San Francisco isn't ranked is high is because it's already at the top of the innovation chain. It still has momentum and is getting better, but it's already there. Boston has closed the gap a little bit, but even with more "momentum" (according to this list), it's still not where the Bay Area is.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Center City
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I'm not a big believer in breaking up a region that's really functionally cohesive in reality for the sake of a comparison. San Jose is absolutely part of the equation and is functionally part of the Bay Area as a whole. I think of these three cities, San Francisco/Bay Area is the most influential domestically and internationally in most categories. I think Boston is number 2 and Philly is number 3.
I'm with you. I believe consideration of the BosWash cities as a cohesive unit is reasonable for the sake of this comparison.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I'm with you. I believe consideration of the BosWash cities as a cohesive unit is reasonable for the sake of this comparison.
Hahaha your claws are showing.

The Bay Area is worlds more cohesive than BosWash, which isnt even considered a single geography in a single census statistic.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Center City
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BosWash
"The Northeast Regional is a higher-speed rail service operated by Amtrak in the Northeastern and Mid-Atlantic United States. In the past it has been known as the NortheastDirect, Acela Regional, or Regional. It is the busiest Amtrak route, carrying 8.04 million passengers in fiscal year (FY) 2013" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Regional

SF/SJ
  • "During fiscal year 2012 the Capitol Corridor service carried 1,746,397 passengers, an 2.2% increase over FY2011; however, in FY2013, the Capitol Corridor carried 1,701,185 passengers, which represents a 2.6% decrease from FY2012" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Corridor.
  • "Whether traveling around Northern California for business or pleasure, skip the traffic and parking hassles and take the train. Amtrak Capitol Corridor provides convenient, frequent and affordable daily service between the Sacramento region and the Bay Area, with multi-ride tickets available. You can also take the easy Thruway bus connections to San Francisco at Emeryville (EMY)." https://www.amtrak.com/capitol-corridor-train
LOL - A bus.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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Hahaha your claws are showing.

The Bay Area is worlds more cohesive than BosWash, which isnt even considered a single geography in a single census statistic.
You cannot be serious with this sentence.
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Old 05-06-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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You cannot be serious with this sentence.
Why isn't that serious? There are major breaks in urban/suburban development all along the BosWash corridor. Particularly between Boston and New York and between Philadelphia and Baltimore. There's connectivity there, but the Bay Area has an unbroken string of suburbs and smaller urban centers connecting San Fransciso to San Jose along the Peninsula and San Jose to Oakland/Richmond along the East Bay. That kind of continuity simply does not exist in the Bos-Wash corridor. Not even between New York and Philadelphia which are the two most connected major urban centers in the corridor. To argue that all of the Bos-Wash corridor is as even close to as interconnected as SF/OAK/SJ is simply erroneous. It's just too spread out. Then there's the fact about the census statistic. Bos-Wash is not a MSA, CSA, UA, or NECTA. That's a fact.
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Old 05-06-2016, 10:54 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Why isn't that serious? There are major breaks in urban/suburban development all along the BosWash corridor. Particularly between Boston and New York and between Philadelphia and Baltimore. There's connectivity there, but the Bay Area has an unbroken string of suburbs and smaller urban centers connecting San Fransciso to San Jose along the Peninsula and San Jose to Oakland/Richmond along the East Bay. That kind of continuity simply does not exist in the Bos-Wash corridor. Not even between New York and Philadelphia which are the two most connected major urban centers in the corridor. To argue that all of the Bos-Wash corridor is as even close to as interconnected as SF/OAK/SJ is simply erroneous. It's just too spread out. Then there's the fact about the census statistic. Bos-Wash is not a MSA, CSA, UA, or NECTA. That's a fact.
SEPTA, NJT, MTA merger with lines running CBD to CBD at commuter rail prices! Make Philly/NYC just one giant glob of a metro.
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