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Houston can't be Southern and an International city? I guess Miami, and Atlanta aren't Southern cities either.
Atlanta yes, Miami and Houston no. They dont identify culturally with the south.
Even East Texas people, would identify themselves as Texan not southern. I dont see that for northern Florida.
Atlanta yes, Miami and Houston no. They dont identify culturally with the south.
Even East Texas people, would identify themselves as Texan not southern. I dont see that for northern Florida.
When did you take these polls? I'm a native Houstonian, so you can't tell me that I don't identify with the South, because I absolutely do, and every other native Houstonian who understands the history of their town feels the same way. Your international statement can't apply to Houston any more than it does Atlanta.
I've only known ONE East Texan who didn't see herself as southern (I won't call out her name but she's a poster in the Texas forum). Every other East Texan I've known absolutely identified with the South. In fact, many felt that they clearly had more in common with the Southeast than with the rest of the state.
So let's not make matter-of-fact statements about things when there are no actual facts involved.
First, when I had gone to Houston a year ago, I felt that I had never left the South. During the ride from Alabama to Houston, it all felt the same except for topographic differences. Also, in Houston, I felt like I was in Atlanta, Birmingham, or any parts of the South because there were so many blacks, and they sounded like they were from those respective places. The only thing that took away from the southern culture was the large Hispanic population, which did speak with a southern accent. Houston felt like a huge Mobile, which is super duper southern. lol.
Lastly, I've spent the whole summer last summer in Florida and have visited the state many times. The Panhandle is just an extension of Alabama and Georgia, but once when you make that turn going south on I-75 from I-10, the southern culture becomes diluted. However, the blacks and some whites hold on to the culture. Orlando's blacks are country, but Tampa's blacks are more country. Miami's blacks are country too, and yes, the Caribbean people have adapted to the southern culture, but the large Hispanic population takes a lot away from Miami's southern culture more so than Houston's.
All in all, I feel that East Texas and the Florida Panhandle are neck-in-neck in terms of southern culture. They are part of the Deep South culturally. I feel that more of Texas's heavily populated areas are more southern than Florida's due to the state's unusual shape and location of its heavily populated areas. That's just me.
When did you take these polls? I'm a native Houstonian, so you can't tell me that I don't identify with the South, because I absolutely do, and every other native Houstonian who understands the history of their town feels the same way. Your international statement can't apply to Houston any more than it does Atlanta.
I've only known ONE East Texan who didn't see herself as southern (I won't call out her name but she's a poster in the Texas forum). Every other East Texan I've known absolutely identified with the South. In fact, many felt that they clearly had more in common with the Southeast than with the rest of the state.
So let's not make matter-of-fact statements about things when there are no actual facts involved.
Same place you took your polls. In the bathroom...
You just made a series of those matter of fact statements..lol
So you're saying there is only ONE east Texan that doesn't see themself as southern...I'm saying there isn't one person in DFW who thinks we are in the deep south. But again this is all subjective.
Regarding Atlanta v Houston. Houston is far more internationally diverse than Atlanta. Atlanta is immersed in the Deep South where Houston at best is on the crusty edge.
Same place you took your polls. In the bathroom...
You just made a series of those matter of fact statements..lol
So you're saying there is only ONE east Texan that doesn't see themself as southern...I'm saying there isn't one person in DFW who thinks we are in the deep south. But again this is all subjective.
Regarding Atlanta v Houston. Houston is far more internationally diverse than Atlanta. Atlanta is immersed in the Deep South where Houston at best is on the crusty edge.
No, I spoke from experience. I never said ALL East Texans see themselves as southerners, as if it were fact. I said that I've personally only ever met one who did not.
I lived in Atlanta. It most certainly is not immersed in the Deep South. The city itself was never even a real cotton town but had more of an industrial history. North of the city is where you're getting into mountain country, which is the Upper South. You're just as likely to run into a New Yorker or foreigner as you are someone who's actually from Georgia. Some areas of the metro are even predominantly Mexican. Not only does Houston look more like a Deep South city, it's history is also more closely tied to it.
First, when I had gone to Houston a year ago, I felt that I had never left the South. During the ride from Alabama to Houston, it all felt the same except for topographic differences. Also, in Houston, I felt like I was in Atlanta, Birmingham, or any parts of the South because there were so many blacks, and they sounded like they were from those respective places. The only thing that took away from the southern culture was the large Hispanic population, which did speak with a southern accent. Houston felt like a huge Mobile, which is super duper southern. lol.
Lastly, I've spent the whole summer last summer in Florida and have visited the state many times. The Panhandle is just an extension of Alabama and Georgia, but once when you make that turn going south on I-75 from I-10, the southern culture becomes diluted. However, the blacks and some whites hold on to the culture. Orlando's blacks are country, but Tampa's blacks are more country. Miami's blacks are country too, and yes, the Caribbean people have adapted to the southern culture, but the large Hispanic population takes a lot away from Miami's southern culture more so than Houston's.
All in all, I feel that East Texas and the Florida Panhandle are neck-in-neck in terms of southern culture. They are part of the Deep South culturally. I feel that more of Texas's heavily populated areas are more southern than Florida's due to the state's unusual shape and location of its heavily populated areas. That's just me.
Yep, I've always said this. Even the West-Indian immigrants adapt Southern Black culture once they reach South Florida. I've always maintained that Black South Floridians were as Southern as any other group of Blacks in other Southern states. There's plenty of BBQ Joints all over South Florida. And Pickeled-Eggs and Pigs Feet are popular at any hood store in South Florida. Southerners through-and-through in Opa-Locka FL(Northwest Miami-Dade County):
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