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Old 11-06-2011, 12:56 PM
 
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My thought is that what is taking Philly so long in figuring this out, especially since they are so close to NYC. They both share the same urban/suburban--SUBURBS (NJ). Joke, by the way, but you get what I'm saying.. I just don't understand the political climate in Philly. NY's murder rate has been declining since the early nineties and LA has for about five years now and Chicago as of recently has been. What is taking Philly so long to jump on board and impliment these more efficient approaches? It seems as if Philadelphila (as a city, political system, entity, etc) doesn't want to reduce its crime. They want to spruce up center city, but do nothing to many of the other neighborhoods. What they fail to realize is if they concentrated fixing up the more neglected neighborhoods, instead of the already fixed, improved and gentrified Center city that that would only bring many more positives...Just don't know what is so wrong with the political system in Philly. And this is nothing against Philly. I like Philly. I just think they focus too much attention to certain neighborhoods and continually neglect the ones that need it the most.

In 1998 the Philadelphia Police Dept. started operation Sunrise followed by operation Safe Streets in 2002, both of which worked in the short term but where deemed to expensive to continue. In 2006 PPD started operation Safer Streets, which many people say was micromanaged too much and eventually lead to fewer police on the street, which is the exact opposite of what it was supposed to do.

murders per year.

1987 --- 384
1988 --- 440
1989 --- 482
1990 --- 497
1991 --- 447
1992 --- 423
1993 --- 437
1994 --- 400
1995 --- 433
1996 --- 412
1997 --- 409

1998 --- 340
1999 --- 296
2000 --- 319
2001 --- 309
2002 --- 288
2003 --- 350
2004 --- 330
2005 --- 375
2006 --- 406
2007 --- 391
2008 --- 331
2009 --- 302
2010 --- 306
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Hell, NY
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The irony is that NY is the problem.

As it cleanses and purges a portion of its displaced undesirable populace end up down here in the Philly region.. As they say bleep runs downhill. Former blue collar steel and mill towns have turned into ghettoes thanks to the runoff from NYC.Reading and Allentown come to mind.Northeast Philly which until 10-20 years ago was solid mostly white middle class is changing quickly and not for the better. The incubator? NYC

Are you serious. NY is the problem. In your mind maybe..NYC murders don't move to Philly. They are very bad people. They are not going to move to be bad, they take care of bad business where they are. That is the silliest thing I've heard in a long time. I hope you don't really believe that. Philly had a very high crime rate way before NYC's crime rate went down..This is just an assinine answer to a much more complex problem..Don't blame NYC on Kiladelphia's murder rate..Imagine that....

In fact if PHilly and NYC were people, I would say Philly is a big boy, it can take responsibilities for its own actions..
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Old 11-06-2011, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Are you serious. NY is the problem. In your mind maybe..NYC murders don't move to Philly. They are very bad people. They are not going to move to be bad, they take care of bad business where they are. That is the silliest thing I've heard in a long time. I hope you don't really believe that. Philly had a very high crime rate way before NYC's crime rate went down..This is just an assinine answer to a much more complex problem..Don't blame NYC on Kiladelphia's murder rate..Imagine that....

In fact if PHilly and NYC were people, I would say Philly is a big boy, it can take responsibilities for its own actions..
Do some research on the topic superpansy. This isnt baseless opinion its reality. Unfortunately.
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Old 11-06-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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No I don't know too much about other countries. Im from Detroit and had no clue that Windsor was that safe (right across the river)
You've never once noticed how high the murder rate is in the United States? I can't believe you've presumably lived there all your life and haven't noticed how high it is. Especially living in Detroit. That city has hundreds of murders per year.
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Old 11-06-2011, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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You've never once noticed how high the murder rate is in the United States? I can't believe you've presumably lived there all your life and haven't noticed how high it is. Especially living in Detroit. That city has hundreds of murders per year.
Well I know Detroit has pretty high crime. But I didn't think it was that bad but I was always comparing it to Africa or somewhere in the middle east lol.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: the future
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His numbers are way off for a lot of cities, traffic fatalities are included under the same ucr code of murder, he lumps the traffic fatalities into the murder total for Dallas.


If you want Official numbers here.

Uniform Crime Reporting Statistics


And no, a four percent differential is large, It does not matter if you add more sq. miles, because you do not know what that economic or social make of of those proposed areas would be.
After looking at this site Washington, New Orleans, and Detroit had some insane murder rates in the 90's
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Old 11-12-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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its been about 22 murders this month already for chicago..thats kinda high for november
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:00 PM
 
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its been about 22 murders this month already for chicago..thats kinda high for november
That's basically average for the entire month of November. This November has been crazy, mostly because of two cases where 4 and 3 people were murdered in a single occasion. Crazy stuff.
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Now that Mayor Nutter has secured his 2nd term in Philly, I hope he starts making a serious commitment to decreasing the murder rate in the city. He also needs to "clean house" the city council because most of the policies coming out of there are holding the city back.
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Homicide map - Homicide Report - Los Angeles Times

Los Angeles County (10 million people): 487

Last homicide was on October 24th. I guess murdering people has gone out of style
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