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Originally Posted by steeps
I still maintain that Cleveland and Pittsburgh are still not like.... or sister cities. Not even brothers... but with another Mother LOL.
One is CLEARLY IN HOUSING AND STREET GRIDS ... MID-ATLANTIC NORTHEASTERN. THE OTHER IS IN HOUSING AND GRID MORE MIDWESTERN....
MAIN REASON ONE IS ROW-HOMES AND DUPLEX-DOUBLES (HALF-DOUBLES) . THE OTHER IS PRIMARILY DETACHED SINGLES. Yes both have examples in each city of the others.... but still there is THIS STARK DIFFERENCE.
One use to plenty of Row-Homes as in Pittsburgh and Half-Doubles. Would not feel out of place in Philly. Philly just has more tight Walled Row blocks of homes the same.
Cleveland still did a much larger % of singles detached housing. That was my point before. It is NOT TO SLIGHT EITHER CITY. BOTH HAVE THEIR VALUES AND HISTORIES IN BUILDING THIS NATION.
If Pittsburghers harp they are MORE CLEARLY EASTERN.... I AGREE. MOST OF PA IS APPALACHIAN. and MANY MID-STATE PENNSYVANIANS STILL MIGRATED TO PHILLY TOO. WITH PITTSBURGH'S AND PROXIMITY TO WEST VIRGINIA. GAINED MORE A SOUTHERN SHARE. THAT THEY SHARE. Pittsburgh had less Black Migration.... not sure why. They chose Detroit instead maybe or Cleveland.
BUT THIS THREAD HAS BEEN HYJACKED..... IT IS NOT ABOUT CLEVELAND. ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://pics3.city-data.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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And you are free to have that opinion. There are also people who have the opinion that Ohio is part of the Northeast.
https://www.city-data.com/forum/gener...t-midwest.html
Homerific opinions and threads do not make it so.
I do find it interesting that everyone seems to rebuke the Midwest. Cleveland posters disavow the Midwest and stake their claim to the Northeast through Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh posters disavow Cleveland and stake their claim to the East Coast via cities 4-6 hours away from it. All these threads do is show that the prestige in this country (or at least on C-D) rests on the Coasts.
Pittsburgh is about as much a Mid-Atlantic city as Buffalo is. All of its rivers run West and the Atlantic coastline is more than 6 hours away.