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Historically, Charleston,SC was at one time the nation's 5th largest city and Boston being the largest. Today, Philadelphia isn't New York, Los Angeles or Chicago when it comes to becoming a main hub of a region while having stronger larger diverse economies and with bigger metro population to absorb any loses. It still falls in the shadows of NYC like Detroit was to Chicago in the midwest. Other cities like DC, Baltimore are also competing for growth so it will be very unlikely it will get a sudden surge in population fast enough to catch up. It would have to grow faster than cities like San Antonio which are only a hand full of cities looking to steal the 5th position. Since Philly isn't really a stand alone city it has too much regional competition.
Right now in this decade yes, they're so close like almost neck in neck right now, and Phoenix's economy is hit hard where as Philadelphia is better off this decade economically and growth wise than it has been in decades.
This decade I will say that yes, Philadelphia will surpass Phoenix yet again, but later this decade, they'll trade places again and this time Phoenix will go in to keep it.
My reasons are the same as what Renaud says.
And yes, in 40 years when USA's population hits 400 million, I can see Philadelphia getting back up to the 2 million mark.
And I agree with Kidphilly, Chicago has had some nice development going on south loop. I have some pictures of the ENTIRE downtown/loop area, 530+ pictures and such (just for Chicago). And I'm slowly uploading those if anyone is interested to see what Chicago's got going on, or what it's architecture looks like! I also have spent this past 5 days in Cleveland, Indianapolis, Detroit, Ann Arbor (my former school), Urbana-Champaign, and Columbus. I have videos to them all and pictures as well, if anyone is interested in seeing.
San Antonio has to worry about Dallas. From every source I have read in the last few days, it appears Dallas's population has also reached 1.4 million mark. In 2008 it was at 1.28 million.... that's a huge change for Dallas...
Where does the census say that? I highly doubt Dallas will surpass San Antonio or even has reached 1.4 million.
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Where does the census say that? I highly doubt Dallas will surpass San Antonio or even has reached 1.4 million.
"The Week" magazine says that on page 19.
Search Dallas population at 1.4 million on Google, you'll find some articles. Even their Wikipedia page says that.
No lie, I'm just as surprised as you are. A month ago I was surprised to find out it passed 1.3 million back in 2009, and now I'm surprised yet again...
Most of PHX is just glorified suburbia compared to Philly, so yes its city population may be higher, and might remain higher, but that's only because its not a city in the same sense that Philly is a city.
PHX still has alot of growing up to do.
Dallas and San Antonio are also typical sunbelt style, not that there's anything wrong with that. Its just kind of odd to compare those kinds of cities to a city like Philly.
San Antonio is not typical sunbelt city. The city of San Antonio got i'ts name in 1691. San Antonio is not a typical sunbelt city. You will find a lot more historic urban fabric in San Antonio moreso than any other sunbelt city. You can see it in it's historic cultural venues, cathedrals, theatres etc. San Antonio has the second oldest municipal mark in the country as well as the oldest cathederal.
San Antonio is not typical sunbelt city. The city of San Antonio got i'ts name in 1691. San Antonio is not a typical sunbelt city. You will find a lot more historic urban fabric in San Antonio moreso than any other sunbelt city. You can see it in it's historic cultural venues, cathedrals, theatres etc. San Antonio has the second oldest municipal mark in the country as well as the oldest cathederal.
The city or it's core may not be a typical sunbelt city. But the majority of the metropolitan area as well as much outside the core is indeed typically sunbelt.
The city or it's core may not be a typical sunbelt city. But the majority of the metropolitan area as well as much outside the core is indeed typically sunbelt.
412 sq miles and average density of 2,800 - yes it is the typical Sunbelt city - the population density of the city on average is suburban and covers a huge footprint
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