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unless they r raped or threatened to have sex they are practicing homosexuality and i seriously doubt those men could relate well to a woman on release----do not buy the any port--god gave us free will and constraint---and supposedly the ability to think and make moral choices---but since they t in prison obviously the moral choices part is not functioning!
Well then you would be wrong. I have dealt with individuals who have been released from jail and they are not gay at all and do relate quite well to women.
As for thinking from a Christian perspective, you are thinking from your Christian perspective, not all Christian's. I certainly do not believe in the condemnation of gays & lesbians as other's do and I am definitely Christian.
You know Alan, weren't you the one who was preachin on the subject of women being submissive to their husbands on another thread?
Yes, a wife must submit to her husband as onto her Lord.
This is the duty of the Christian wife.
as long as such submission does not take a path that violates the written Word, she has no excuse not to submit.
How in the world would you expect your wife to submit to you when you talk like this?
The truly submissive Christian wife will submit as onto the Lord regardless of the ability to speak of her husband....thats the first best answer to your question.
But I must ask what I have said here that you think is in error?
My point is...it goes both ways. You need to be a Godly man and stop walkin in the flesh and be an example before people on this thread will ever take you seriously, especially about the submission subject,
First, I have no delusion that I need to convince anyone of anything...Im not their teacher , they are not in my Sunday school class.
2nd, a person can not control the thoughts of actions of another in a marriage.
I do not sit on the fence waiting for my wife to act like a good Christian wife before I act like a good Christian husband.
The same is true for my wife, she does not sit on the fence waiting for me to act like a good husband before she submits to my leadership.
You do what you are to do, regardless of the actions or thoughts of your spouse.
Think of all the closeted gays you may be hugging this time of year. If you attend a lot of Christmas parties, by New Year's Day, you could become a full fledged homosexual. Ironically, they call it "the most wonderful time of the year."
Think of all the closeted gays you may be hugging this time of year. If you attend a lot of Christmas parties, by New Year's Day, you could become a full fledged homosexual. Ironically, they call it "the most wonderful time of the year."
"don we now our gay apparel"????....
But seriously, you dont catch "gay" by contact, or by breathing the same air as the Gays.
first this chick is bat crap crazy - about all that needs to be said there
2nd - without a real dog in the fight, a simple observation that I find kind funny
all the people who say the moment you engage in a gay sex act you are automatically gay
spend your whole life attracted to and being intimate with the opposite gender, but go opposite once then you are full fledged, 100% gay
what if I feel it goes the other way - you can have someone who is obviously a homosexual, but for some reason or another decides to have sex with the opposite sex .... are they then at that point straight
of course not - they are deviants!
whatever, if you want the act to be the lead of all else, then let it stand in a vacuum and cut both ways
you'll get twisted up pretty quickly though because life just isn't that cut and dry
spend your whole life attracted to and being intimate with the opposite gender, but go opposite once then you are full fledged, 100% gay
Yes
Yes,I believe that if you are doing gay sex you are fully 100 gay!
you do not accidently unzip......
You do not accidentally suggest that you and your buddies at work knock-off early for the day and head over to the gay bath house and do a litle experimenting....
Just does not happen....
No guy ever tried to explain getting caught by his wife and children in the middle of performing a sex at on another guy by saying, "Oh, dont worry, Im not gay I just needed to pay him back for helping me fix the car's breaks"...
That excuse is just not going to fly with anyone....we all know better.
so what does that guy become when he is having sex with his wife
if he's having sex with a woman then he's obviously straight right?
i mean if a man having sex with a man = gay
then a man having sex with a woman must = straight
it's really basic logic if sex acts lead sexuality
i'm also curious as to why the sex in these scenarios is between men - notice that I didn't include any specific gender at all in my post .... yet you immediately threw out a specific scenario involving men
that is another thing I find interesting from a pure observational standpoint
so what does that guy become when he is having sex with his wife
a good way to understand this issue is in this example:
You get a gun and walk into a local bank and rob it.
You are in every way possible a "Bank Robber"
There is no defense that "It was only the one bank", or "It was my first time"
The Fact is that you went into a bank with a gun and robbed it, thus you are now known as a 100% bank robber.
Now later that day you walk back into that same bank and try to deposit some cash into your account.
Just because you can still act in a very normal manner as a valid bank customer does not change the fact that you are still a 100% bank robber and will be changed with that no matter how normal you try to act later....
so it's only because you deem it a deviant or criminal type behaviour
however, homosexuality is not a crime (well, unless you live in uganda or some such 3rd world country) and your analogy holds little weight due to this
so once again, if the act defines the mere fact that they have sex with the opposite sex makes them straight as much as having sex with the same sex makes them gay
unless of course, there is more to it than that
but if that's the case things get too messy and people need to actually think and stuff
much easier to do a quick and dirty judge and label and be done with it ... put everyone in their proper group and try to keep things as clean and separated as possible
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