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Your still in denial, so why believe your not always dishonest ? rev 21:
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and allliars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
It's not about my denial when I posted the proof of what you said. It was not out of context, it is not being in denial, you answered my question directly. Until you retract that declaration to me, then I assume you still think that.
Of course you have said the words your only hope is to be one of the elect, so what?.
But that doesn't change the answer to the question I asked you until you say that you do not make a claim to my eternal damntion since that is what you declared to me.
It's not about my denial when I posted the proof of what you said. It was not out of context, it is not being in denial, you answered my question directly. Until you retract that declaration to me, then I assume you still think that.
Of course you have said the words your only hope is to be one of the elect, so what?.
But that doesn't change the answer to the question I asked you until you say that you do not make a claim to my eternal damntion since that is what you declared to me.
So do you retract that or not?
When are you going to admit the Truth that I told you that if your an elect, you have hope ? I have showed the post already, Just admit the Truth ..
Here in post # 26 I told hazelwood that if he is an elect he has hope, and hazelwood in an effort to slander me denies i told him that, but again here is the exact post:
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Originally Posted by Phazelwood When it comes to the seed of the devil being the issue of what contrasts good in our own heart, I won't disagree with you here. When it comes to physical human beings created by God for nothing more that human nuggets covered with Devils Spit BBQ sauce, because that's what God simply decided to do, it doesn't hold up to scripture.
I get ya Beloved, your taught to continue to repeat things such as "I do not understand" because I see that view of scripture, so as to prevent my words from affecting you. But It's not up to me in the first place, thats where we do agree. I agree, it's not about you, nor is it about me.
But ya know what, I'm ok with being damned by God if that's what thinking to highly of him gets me, he'll just have to damn me for it.
I [beloved57] said here:
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You are a decieved person with only one hope, and that is if your an elect..as of now, you are in darkness..
Here in post # 26 I told hazelwood that if he is an elect he has hope, and hazelwood in an effort to slander me denies i told him that, but again here is the exact post:
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Originally Posted by Phazelwood When it comes to the seed of the devil being the issue of what contrasts good in our own heart, I won't disagree with you here. When it comes to physical human beings created by God for nothing more that human nuggets covered with Devils Spit BBQ sauce, because that's what God simply decided to do, it doesn't hold up to scripture.
I get ya Beloved, your taught to continue to repeat things such as "I do not understand" because I see that view of scripture, so as to prevent my words from affecting you. But It's not up to me in the first place, thats where we do agree. I agree, it's not about you, nor is it about me.
But ya know what, I'm ok with being damned by God if that's what thinking to highly of him gets me, he'll just have to damn me for it.
Beloved57 fails to explain clearly his proven responce to me
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Originally Posted by beloved57
Here in post # 26 I told hazelwood that if he is an elect he has hope, and hazelwood in an effort to slander me denies i told him that, but again here is the exact post:
Just clarify one answer I proved you DID say to me. I already said you have said the words you did, but that does not erase your direct answer to my direct question.
Here is the deal, you generally say that, but you believe that I am eternally damned, because that's how you answered my question. Or you can explain why you answered YES when I asked if you make a claim to my eternal damnation.
I responded to the claim of yours that you have never said to anyone specifically that they are eternally damned. I proved that you did.
No where did I claim that you NEVER said anything to me about having hope if I was the elect, you have construed the whole thing to make it look like my responce was the lie and it is not.
I stated that despite you saying that to me, it did not explain why you answered the way you did in the proven answer you gave to me.
You have now clarified and admitted what actually is the truth as have I.
Nobody is "eternally damned". End of story. If it was true we are all supposed to be brainwashed into believing this nonsense through fear mongering then bad luck about this quote:
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
Even if you were perfect in every other way but "fearful" about god's wrath/hell you would still end up in the lake of fire, apparently, so SO much for converting people through fear of hell.
As for Adam and Eve, heh, they still be knocking around somewhere on this ol' earth, I think they live in a cave out in Uzbekistan these days, but they're frightfully old and wrinkly now.
Nobody is "eternally damned". End of story. If it was true we are all supposed to be brainwashed into believing this nonsense through fear mongering then bad luck about this quote:
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
Even if you were perfect in every other way but "fearful" about god's wrath/hell you would still end up in the lake of fire, apparently, so SO much for converting people through fear of hell.
As for Adam and Eve, heh, they still be knocking around somewhere on this ol' earth, I think they live in a cave out in Uzbekistan these days, but they're frightfully old and wrinkly now.
ROTFL ... Indeed!
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hazelwood failure to be honest
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