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the purpose of hell was never designed for human habitation, nor was death to be part creation. Hell was to be for the devil, but Jesus (who is the truth) will put those who are against the truth there.
Matthew 25:41
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
God did reconcile the world to himself, but most the world doesn't believes it. The world wants to enter on its terms, not Gods.
the purpose of hell was never designed for human habitation, nor was death to be part creation. Hell was to be for the devil, but Jesus (who is the truth) will put those who are against the truth there.
Matthew 25:41
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
God did reconcile the world to himself, but most the world doesn't believes it. The world wants to enter on its terms, not Gods.
God, being all knowing, couldn't have possibly created something not planning for it to happen. So God fully intended death to enter the world, and he fully planned on anybody that goes to "Hell" (if one insists that it exists) to go to "Hell". It's really an inescapable conclusion.
Also, in more accurate translations Matthew 25:41 speaks of "messengers" as opposed to "angels". Could it be that the Devil's messengers are non-believers? Seems possible to me. But even if it didn't, saying that "Hell" was prepared for the Devil and his angels doesn't negate the possibility that it was ALSO created for man.
Of course, I don't believe that eternal punishment, or even annihilation, awaits for anyone, but I'm just pointing these things out.
This does not say anything about hell or fire or forever or anything. Death is the final penalty for sin. Gods judgment is for reconciling the dead to himself, not for the purpose of torturing the souls of the dead for eternity
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God, being all knowing, couldn't have possibly created something not planning for it to happen. So God fully intended death to enter the world, and he fully planned on anybody that goes to "Hell" (if one insists that it exists) to go to "Hell". It's really an inescapable conclusion.
God, being all knowing, couldn't have possibly created something not planning for it to happen. So God fully intended death to enter the world, and he fully planned on anybody that goes to "Hell" (if one insists that it exists) to go to "Hell". It's really an inescapable conclusion.
Indeed; the message we present today tells the world that God simply speaks the sentence we pass on ourselves. That's far from the God of the Bible. If our destiny was in our hands, then Paul's writings must be ignored.
the purpose of hell was never designed for human habitation, nor was death to be part creation. Hell was to be for the devil, but Jesus (who is the truth) will put those who are against the truth there.
Do you think God may have accounted for humans being in hell and death BEFORE he went ahead and created everything? I'm all for some discussion here, but based on what you have written here, it seems that God is no better than a human planner. He thought everything through the best he could, but just overlooked a few things.
The problem here is that some things will be put forth such as this, then the same people seem to excuse all of that and say it is mans free will.
But that seems to bypass some key things.
Do you say the above and also maintain a belief in the following phrases. "God is all knowing" "God is all powerful" "God is omnipresent" ?
28"Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Will he not first sit down and estimate the cost to see if he has enough money to complete it? 29For if he lays the foundation and is not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, 30saying, 'This fellow began to build and was not able to finish.
This how the church sytem believes in God's plan , he's not able to finish it.
the purpose of hell was never designed for human habitation, nor was death to be part creation. Hell was to be for the devil, but Jesus (who is the truth) will put those who are against the truth there.
Matthew 25:41
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
God did reconcile the world to himself, but most the world doesn't believes it. The world wants to enter on its terms, not Gods.
Are you saying Sheol was originally intended for the fallen angels ... and/or Hades? Or Geheena, or Tartaroo?
I mean help me understand exactly what you mean by that?
Originally Posted by twin.spin the purpose of hell was never designed for human habitation, nor was death to be part creation. Hell was to be for the devil, but Jesus (who is the truth) will put those who are against the truth there.
Matthew 25:41
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Yes it was for human habitation, for it was for the devil and his angels..you see the devil and his seed are one..so what was made for him automatically means it was made for his offspring..you cant seperate them..and his offspring would be humans..
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Correct again twin.
