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Did Adam and eve go to eternal hell? If not, the why does anyone else? What was the actual consaquence of their actions?
Did hell just come into existence at the dawn of Christianity as a result of Christ death? Whose sin is greater, someone who never knew God, or those who were born of God? David was a murderer by proxy and an adulterer and a selfish coward ... Solomon was a womanizer and an idolater and a blasphemer ... Paul was a mass murderer of saints ... the list goes on and on throughout the bible. Where is the line drawn? Who draws it? At what point have you crossed it? What are the ultimate consequences? Is what you believe about these things consistent?
Did Adam and eve go to eternal hell? If not, the why does anyone else? What was the actual consaquence of their actions?
Did hell just come into existence at the dawn of Christianity as a result of Christ death? Whose sin is greater, someone who never knew God, or those who were born of God? David was a murderer by proxy and an adulterer and a selfish coward ... Solomon was a womanizer and an idolater and a blasphemer ... Paul was a mass murderer of saints ... the list goes on and on throughout the bible. Where is the line drawn? Who draws it? At what point have you crossed it? What are the ultimate consequences? Is what you believe about these things consistent?
No.......it's pretty simple. Only one thing sends you to hell, one sin that is unforgivable-dying in your sins unrepentant.
Why didn't god tell Adam and Eve that they were going to hell if they didn't repent? How come he never even mentioned the fact that they might be tortured forever if the failed to repent? Why did he say that the wages of sin is death, instead of eternal torture?
The Bible does not say because the Jewish religion at the time Genesis was written had no such belief. Also note, the serpent is not Satan, the story makes it very plain, the serpent was simply a serpent.
The concepts of Hell and Satan came during the Exile in Babylon, when Judaism was influenced by the ancient Babylonian religion, a precursor or Zoroastrianism, which did have such beliefs. The Underworld and the personification of Evil appear in the post-Exilic literature.
At the time of Jesus, Zoroastrianism became very active in the region. Early Christian beliefs are deeply influenced by Zoroastrian beliefs. There are many parallels between the New Testament and the Zend Avesta, such as life after death (Heaven and Hell) and end-times prophecy, concepts that are implicit in Zoroastrianism but foreign to Judaism.
Why didn't god tell Adam and Eve that they were going to hell if they didn't repent? How come he never even mentioned the fact that they might be tortured forever if the failed to repent? Why did he say that the wages of sin is death, instead of eternal torture?
Too many what if's........The bible is the whole counsel of God. God has revealed what He needs to reveal to certain people for His purpose. Adam and Eve just had to believe in God since there was no bible, Moses and his people had to believe also, plus they had the 10 commandments but they didn't have the New Testament. We Christians today have the full revelation.
Why didn't god tell Adam and Eve that they were going to hell if they didn't repent? How come he never even mentioned the fact that they might be tortured forever if the failed to repent? Why did he say that the wages of sin is death, instead of eternal torture?
He did warn them, He told them they would surly die Gen 2:16,if they ate the fruit, meaning a spiritual death due to being separated from Him.
The Bible does not say because the Jewish religion at the time Genesis was written had no such belief. Also note, the serpent is not Satan, the story makes it very plain, the serpent was simply a serpent.
The concepts of Hell and Satan came during the Exile in Babylon, when Judaism was influenced by the ancient Babylonian religion, a precursor or Zoroastrianism, which did have such beliefs. The Underworld and the personification of Evil appear in the post-Exilic literature.
At the time of Jesus, Zoroastrianism became very active in the region. Early Christian beliefs are deeply influenced by Zoroastrian beliefs. There are many parallels between the New Testament and the Zend Avesta, such as life after death (Heaven and Hell) and end-times prophecy, concepts that are implicit in Zoroastrianism but foreign to Judaism.
Much of what you say is true ... However the pagan myths associated with Christianity is called by the new testament the leaven of the pharisees ... It has crept in through mistranslations and thus bad exegesis. During the first four centuries the majority of Christians didn't believe in eternal torture. The new testament when rightly divided teaches the soul is in a sleep or unconscious state at death, to be restored to consciousness at the resurrection of the dead. Many of the false pagan doctrines came about after the 4th century ... When Rome began to take control of Christianity.
He did warn them, He told them they would surly die Gen 2:16,if they ate the fruit, meaning a spiritual death due to being separated from Him.
This does not say anything about hell or fire or forever or anything. Death is the final penalty for sin. Gods judgment is for reconciling the dead to himself, not for the purpose of torturing the souls of the dead for eternity.
This does not say anything about hell or fire or forever or anything. Death is the final penalty for sin. Gods judgment is for reconciling the dead to himself, not for the purpose of torturing the souls of the dead for eternity.
the purpose of hell was never designed for human habitation, nor was death to be part creation. Hell was to be for the devil, but Jesus (who is the truth) will put those who are against the truth there.
Matthew 25:41
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
God did reconcile the world to himself, but most the world doesn't believes it. The world wants to enter on its terms, not Gods.
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