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This is total hogwash. You have no clue what God IS agape love means. There can be no hatred in God who IS agape love. You are seriously misguided and confused, brother.
He simply does NOT know God, Pcamps. He believes in and follows a wrathful and vengeful War God, NOT the God Divinely Revealed and demonstrated by Jesus (God Himself) on the Cross.
That's a bit of an head scratcher I must say, to hear a christian who says he is a minister for the best part promoting a wrathful warlord god over the one it says he preached peace to them that are not and to them that are afar off(Prodigal son afar off).
He changes us so that we are no longer sinners (1 John 3:9), in the sense of people who sin, through the shedding of His blood.
He both hated us because of our sin and also loved us because He is love.
You have never heard of a love/hate relationship?
This is getting beyond ridiculous now with your outrageous statements about God.
It says while we were still sinners that we were loved. Quit lying about what the scripture say about this.
Your Bible in Ronan's 8 :3 says he condemned sin not the sinner. I have never heard such rubbish in all of my days of being a Christian as the rubbish you are posting. It's most definitely American Christianity gone off the deep end.
Nevertheless God both loves the sinner and hates the sin...
And hates the sinner inasmuch as he will not be separated from his sin through the remedy that God has prescribed.
Changing your tune now you have seen the error of saying God loves and hates sinners at the same time. Actually I take that back after reading your contradictory second sentence.
What we call a "love/hate relationship" signifies dysfunction and fickleness.
There is no dysfunction or fickleness with God.
There is in the mind of those that God hates sinners but amazingly can love them at the same time.
He's even saying now that God hates sinners because they won't separate themselves from their sins, when the scriptures clearly tell us we were and are loved in that state to bring us back into to the state that God himself abides in.
One can only believe that Paul had JBY in mind when he said this.... Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
Do you see that JBF? the goodness of God is drawing man to himself....... Tell me how can this be possible while hating the sinner he's drawing at the same time. You are making a fool of yourself with such nonsense.
This is getting beyond ridiculous now with your outrageous statements about God.
It says while we were still sinners that we were loved. Quit lying about what the scripture say about this.
Your Bible in Ronan's 8 :3 says he condemned sin not the sinner. I have never heard such rubbish in all of my days of being a Christian as the rubbish you are posting. It's most definitely American Christianity gone off the deep end.
The sinner is most definitely condemned in Matthew 13:41-42.
There is in the mind of those that God hates sinners but amazingly can love them at the same time.
He's even saying now that God hates sinners because they won't separate themselves from their sins, when the scriptures clearly tell us we were and are loved in that state to bring us back into to the state that God himself abides in.
One can only believe that Paul had JBY in mind when he said this.... Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
Do you see that JBF? the goodness of God is drawing man to himself....... Tell me how can this be possible while hating the sinner he's drawing at the same time. You are making a fool of yourself with such nonsense.
Aquinas dealt with the problem of the Scriptural language describing God as both "loving" all men and "hating" the workers of iniquity.
The Summa is worth reading. Here are links to some relevant portions:
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