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Yes, believers have. That’s part of the salvation process.
Jimmie: The salvation of the Lord is most assuredly a process encompassing all tenses of past, present and future. The wonderful process is for all mankind to experience.
"The One who died for us, who was raised to life for us, is in the presence of God at this very moment sticking up for us. Do you think anyone is going to be able to drive a wedge between us and Christ's love for us? There is no way! Not trouble, not hard times, not hatred, not hunger, not homelessness, not bullying threats, not backstabbing, not even the worst sins listed in Scripture: None of this fazes us because Jesus loves us. I'm absolutely convinced that nothing, nothing living or dead, angelic or demonic, today or tomorrow, high or low, thinkable or unthinkable, absolutely nothing can get between us and God's love because of the way that Jesus our Master has embraced us. ~ MSG
thanatos can't
zōē can't
angelos can't
archē can't
enistēmi can't
mellō can't
dynamis can't
"No power in the sky above or in the earth below"
Nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord."
NOTHING = oudeis = No one. Nothing.
Who are included?
1. Those in Christ Jesus. (v.2 )
2. Those who do not walk according to flesh. (v.2, 4)
3. The carnally minded. (v.6)
4. Those within whom dwells the Spirit of God. (v. 11)
Many have been taught by well-meaning teachers that, one day, the lost will be forced to bow their knees to the Lord of glory and confess with their tongues that Jesus Christ is Lord. Unending torment is then added to the picture, these ones will be forced to make this confession right before they are unmercifully cast by an angry and vengeful god into an eternal and literal lake of fiery torture.
The purpose of the Lake of Fire is to bring the carnal deeds of the lost into the second death, right the wrongs of their life (judgment of their deeds), and teach them righteousness. Restoration & rectification is the goal of Abba, as each one in union with the Name of Jesus bow before Him in unrestrained worship.
God wills all to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. The Will of the Creator always prevails.
Many have been taught by well-meaning teachers that, one day, the lost will be forced to bow their knees to the Lord of glory and confess with their tongues that Jesus Christ is Lord. Unending torment is then added to the picture, these ones will be forced to make this confession right before they are unmercifully cast by an angry and vengeful god into an eternal and literal lake of fiery torture.
The purpose of the Lake of Fire is to bring the carnal deeds of the lost into the second death, right the wrongs of their life (judgment of their deeds), and teach them righteousness. Restoration & rectification is the goal of Abba, as each one in union with the Name of Jesus bow before Him in unrestrained worship.
God wills all to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. The Will of the Creator always prevails.
universalism is a unfaithful teaching because it disregards the clear teaching of scripture as to whom Jesus came to save, not all mankind without exception, but only His People Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Are all without exception His People ? No, for He will tell some on Judgment day Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
But Christ knows His own Jn 10:14
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
All men arent His People, Sheep Jn 10:26
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
universalism is a unfaithful teaching because it disregards the clear teaching of scripture as to whom Jesus came to save, not all mankind without exception, but only His People Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Are all without exception His People ? No, for He will tell some on Judgment day Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
But Christ knows His own Jn 10:14
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
All men arent His People, Sheep Jn 10:26
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Your version is the blind, leading the blind. Thus, I am sure you don't have a close association with him.
The Scripture says “in its own time periods.” Christ gave Himself as a ransom for all men, but the testimony, or the witnessing, of that ransom will only be manifest “in its own time periods”.
Professor Wuest in his Expanded Translation of 1 Timothy 2:6, shows the full intent of what Paul meant. “Who [Christ] gave himself a ransom on behalf of all, the testimony of which was to be given in His own strategic seasons.”
The actual Greek of the text has plain, but profound teaching. Paul, in a dogmatic way, shows that Christ would become a testimony to all men, but only in certain time periods which belong particularly to Him. God is in control. He will disclose His full plan of salvation for men during certain strategic periods which are within God’s superintendence.
To say God the Father has purposed the salvation of all mankind, that the Son died with the express intention of saving the whole human race, that the Holy Spirit is now seeking to win the world to Christ; when as a matter of common observation, it is apparent the great majority of our fellowman are dying in sin; is to say the Father and Son are dissatisfied, and the Holy Spirit is defeated.
God is the Source and the Goal of the all (ta panta).
Jesus made many statements Himself indicating all mankind will not be saved, so universalism is a unfaithful doctrine to the words of Christ Lk 13:30-25
20 And again he said, Whereunto shall I liken the kingdom of God?
21 It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
22 And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Jesus made many statements Himself indicating all mankind will not be saved, so universalism is a unfaithful doctrine to the words of Christ Lk 13:30-25
20 And again he said, Whereunto shall I liken the kingdom of God?
21 It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
22 And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
What you seem not to realize is that the road leads to the same place, but the journey there is vastly different. The narrow road is through a gate that has few issues. The wide road is filled with the destruction of what is unacceptable to God.
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