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Actually, the Tanakh/Masorectic text, the Septuagint, and the Samaritan Pentateuch at Genesis 15:13-16 are all in agreement in saying that Abram's descendants would be enslaved and oppressed for four hundred years, and that in the fourth generation, they would return.
Masorectic text/Tanakh;
Genesis 15:13 And He said to Abram, "You shall surely know that your seed will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and they will enslave them and oppress them, for four hundred years. 14 And also the nation that they will serve will I judge, and afterwards they will go forth with great possessions. 15 But you will come to your forefathers in peace; you will be buried in a good old age. 16And the fourth generation will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites will not be complete until then."
Genesis 15:13 And it was said to Abram, Thou shalt surely know that thy seed shall be a sojourner in a land not their own, and they shall enslave them, and afflict them, and humble them four hundred years.14 And the nation whomsoever they shall serve I will judge; and after this, they shall come forth hither with much property. 15 But thou shalt depart to thy fathers in peace, nourished in a good old age. 16And in the fourth generation they shall return hither, for the sins of the Amorites are not yet filled up, even until now.
Genesis 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
Both the Septuagint and the Samaritan Pentateuch are much older than the Masorectic text, with the Samaritan Pentateuch having been produced perhaps c. 122 BC., but in Genesis 15:13-16 all three texts are in agreement and indicates that the Masorete scribes simply copied from an older existing text when compiling the Masorectic text.
Unfortunately, the text of Genesis chapter 15 has not been preserved in the Dead Sea Scrolls due to deterioration of the papyrus on which it was written and so cannot be used for comparative purposes regarding the text of Genesis 15:13-16.
Septuagint Exodus 12: 40; "And the sojourning of the children of Israel, while they sojourned in the land of Egypt AND THE LAND OF CHANAAN,' was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass after the four hundred and thirty years, all the forces of the Lord came forth out of the land of Egypt by night.
The first promise/Covenant that the Lord made to Abraham, is seen in Genesis 12: 1; "The LORD had said to Abram, "Go from your country, your people and your father's household to the land I will show you. 2"I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. 3I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."
Galatians 3: 17-18; What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
Abraham was 75 when he received the promise and moved into the land of Canaan, 25 years later he became the father of Isaac who was 60 when he sired Jacob, who at the age of 130, moved into the land of Egypt, with his family and servants.
25+60+130=215, years that they were in the land of Canaan, and in the land of Egypt for another 215 years, making the 430 years that Abraham and his descendants were in the land of Canaan and Egypt, as revealed in the Septuagint.
Actually, the Tanakh/Masorectic text, the Septuagint, and the Samaritan Pentateuch at Genesis 15:13-16 are all in agreement in saying that Abram's descendants would be enslaved and oppressed for four hundred years, and that in the fourth generation, they would return.
Masorectic text/Tanakh;
Genesis 15:13 And He said to Abram, "You shall surely know that your seed will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and they will enslave them and oppress them, for four hundred years. 14 And also the nation that they will serve will I judge, and afterwards they will go forth with great possessions. 15 But you will come to your forefathers in peace; you will be buried in a good old age. 16And the fourth generation will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites will not be complete until then."
Genesis 15:13 And it was said to Abram, Thou shalt surely know that thy seed shall be a sojourner in a land not their own, and they shall enslave them, and afflict them, and humble them four hundred years.14 And the nation whomsoever they shall serve I will judge; and after this, they shall come forth hither with much property. 15 But thou shalt depart to thy fathers in peace, nourished in a good old age. 16And in the fourth generation they shall return hither, for the sins of the Amorites are not yet filled up, even until now.
Genesis 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
Both the Septuagint and the Samaritan Pentateuch are much older than the Masorectic text, with the Samaritan Pentateuch having been produced perhaps c. 122 BC., but in Genesis 15:13-16 all three texts are in agreement and indicates that the Masorete scribes simply copied from an older existing text when compiling the Masorectic text.
Unfortunately, the text of Genesis chapter 15 has not been preserved in the Dead Sea Scrolls due to deterioration of the papyrus on which it was written and so cannot be used for comparative purposes regarding the text of Genesis 15:13-16.
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Originally Posted by The Anointed
Septuagint Exodus 12: 40; "And the sojourning of the children of Israel, while they sojourned in the land of Egypt AND THE LAND OF CHANAAN,' was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass after the four hundred and thirty years, all the forces of the Lord came forth out of the land of Egypt by night.
The first promise/Covenant that the Lord made to Abraham, is seen in Genesis 12: 1; "The LORD had said to Abram, "Go from your country, your people and your father's household to the land I will show you. 2"I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. 3I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."
Galatians 3: 17-18; What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
Abraham was 75 when he received the promise and moved into the land of Canaan, 25 years later he became the father of Isaac who was 60 when he sired Jacob, who at the age of 130, moved into the land of Egypt, with his family and servants.
25+60+130=215, years that they were in the land of Canaan, and in the land of Egypt for another 215 years, making the 430 years that Abraham and his descendants were in the land of Canaan and Egypt, as revealed in the Septuagint.
So your complaint is that at Exodus 12:40 the Masorectic text/Tanakh disagrees with the Septuagint.
Tanakh;
Exodus 12:40 And the habitation of the children of Israel, that they dwelled in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.41 It came to pass at the end of four hundred and thirty years, and it came to pass in that very day, that all the legions of the Lord went out of the land of Egypt.
Exodus 12:40 And the sojourning of the children of Israel, while they sojourned in the land of Egypt and the land of Chanaan, [was] four hundred and thirty years.41 And it came to pass after the four hundred and thirty years, all the forces of the Lord came forth out of the land of Egypt by night.
However, at Exodus 12:40-41 the Dead Sea Scrolls agree with the Masoretic text against the Septuagint and against the Samaritan Pentateuch.
Dead Sea Scroll
Exodus 12:40 [Now the time t]hat the children of Israel [dwel]t in the land of E[gy]pt⁹⁶ was four hundred and thirty years. 41 Then at the end of [four hundred and thirty] years, on the very [day] all the h[ost]s of the Lord went out from the land of E[gyp]t.
96. 4QExodᶜ. in Egypt MT. in the land of Canaan and in the land of Egypt SP. in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan LXX.
The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible, translated by Martin Abegg JR., Peter Flint & Eugene Ulrich, p. 44
So at Exodus 12:40-41 the LXX and the Samaritan Pentateuch include the phrase 'the land of Canaan' while the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Masorectic text do not. There is textual variance between the DSS compared with the LXX and the Samaritan Pentateuch, all three being much older than the Masorectic Text which again indicates that at Exodus 12:40 the Masorete scribes simply copied from a Hebrew text which existed at that time which differed from the LXX and the Samaritan Pentateuch, but which agreed with the DSS. And none of those texts are the original Hebrew text which we do not have access to.
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So now you believe that reliance on any text whatsoever is irrational, am I correct? In other words, you believe that it is irrational for anyone to study the scriptures of any religion.
Once again, read what I said. Don't go jumping to wild conclusions that have no real bearing on what is said. There is a difference between "rely on" as in use absolute authority and "study" as in garner information from. Try to avoid wild-eyed reactions please.
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So your complaint is that at Exodus 12:40 the Masorectic text/Tanakh disagrees with the Septuagint.
Tanakh;
Exodus 12:40 And the habitation of the children of Israel, that they dwelled in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.41 It came to pass at the end of four hundred and thirty years, and it came to pass in that very day, that all the legions of the Lord went out of the land of Egypt.
Exodus 12:40 And the sojourning of the children of Israel, while they sojourned in the land of Egypt and the land of Chanaan, [was] four hundred and thirty years.41 And it came to pass after the four hundred and thirty years, all the forces of the Lord came forth out of the land of Egypt by night.
However, at Exodus 12:40-41 the Dead Sea Scrolls agree with the Masoretic text against the Septuagint and against the Samaritan Pentateuch.
Dead Sea Scroll
Exodus 12:40 [Now the time t]hat the children of Israel [dwel]t in the land of E[gy]pt⁹⁶ was four hundred and thirty years. 41 Then at the end of [four hundred and thirty] years, on the very [day] all the h[ost]s of the Lord went out from the land of E[gyp]t.
96. 4QExodᶜ. in Egypt MT. in the land of Canaan and in the land of Egypt SP. in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan LXX.
The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible, translated by Martin Abegg JR., Peter Flint & Eugene Ulrich, p. 44
So at Exodus 12:40-41 the LXX and the Samaritan Pentateuch include the phrase 'the land of Canaan' while the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Masorectic text do not. There is textual variance between the DSS compared with the LXX and the Samaritan Pentateuch, all three being much older than the Masorectic Text which again indicates that at Exodus 12:40 the Masorete scribes simply copied from a Hebrew text which existed at that time which differed from the LXX and the Samaritan Pentateuch, but which agreed with the DSS. And none of those texts are the original Hebrew text which we do not have access to.
א וַיְהִי בִשְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְאַרְבַּע מֵאוֹת שָׁנָה לְצֵאת בְּנֵי-יִשְׂרָאֵל מֵאֶרֶץ-מִצְרַיִם בַּשָּׁנָה הָרְבִיעִית בְּחֹדֶשׁ זִו, הוּא הַחֹדֶשׁ הַשֵּׁנִי, לִמְלֹךְ שְׁלֹמֹה, עַל-יִשְׂרָאֵל; וַיִּבֶן הַבַּיִת, לַיהוָה. 1 Kings 6: 1; And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Ziv, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.
Rabbinic sources state that the First Temple stood for 410 years and, based on the 2nd-century work Seder Olam Rabbah, place construction in 832 BCE and destruction in 422 BCE, 165 years later than secular estimates.
The greater majority of biblical students today, accept the secular date of 587 B.C., as the correct date for the destruction of the temple and reject completely the Rabbinic dates as to the construction and destruction of the temple and yet believe the erroneous Rabbinic period for the existence of the temple, to be 410 years, thereby erroneously believing that the temple was constructed in 832 B.C..
Whereas, the Jewish historian Josephus, says that "the temple was burnt four hundred and seventy years, six months and 10 days after its construction, revealing that it was constructed in 1057 B.C.
1 Kings 6: 1; In the four hundred and eightieth year after the Israelites came out of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, the second month, he began to build the temple of the LORD.
This gives us 587, the date of the destruction of the temple+ 471, the time that the temple existed before being destroyed +480, the time between the exodus and the construction of the temple =1538 B.C., as the approximate date of the Exodus, which is around the time of the destruction of Jericho.
Whereas, according to the 2nd-century work Seder Olam Rabbah, who places the construction in 832 BCE, we have 832+480= 1312 B.C., as the date of the exodus, some 200 years after the destruction of Jericho.
Kathleen Kenyon, a most respected archaeologist dug at Jericho over the seasons between 1952 to 1958, her results were confirmed in 1995 by radiocarbon tests, which dated the destruction of Jericho to 1562 BC (Plus/minus 38 years) with a certainty of 95%.
The radiocarbon tests which dated the destruction of Jericho to 1562 BC (plus/minus 38 years) with a certainty of 95%, confirm that the biblical date of 1527 BC for the destruction, agrees with Kathleen Kenyon’s findings.
1562 (minus 38 years) [1562-38=1524 BC.] this would mean that Jericho fell somewhere between 1562 and 1524 BC.
Which of the two do you accept, “The Jewish dates which support their erroneous statement that the Israelites were in Egypt for 430 years, and have the Exodus occurring some two hundred years after the destruction of Jericho.
Or the Septuagint, which has the Israelites in the land of Canaan for 215 years, and in Egypt for only 215 years, and the exodus occurring around the time of the destruction of Jericho?
א וַיְהִי בִשְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְאַרְבַּע מֵאוֹת שָׁנָה לְצֵאת בְּנֵי-יִשְׂרָאֵל מֵאֶרֶץ-מִצְרַיִם בַּשָּׁנָה הָרְבִיעִית בְּחֹדֶשׁ זִו, הוּא הַחֹדֶשׁ הַשֵּׁנִי, לִמְלֹךְ שְׁלֹמֹה, עַל-יִשְׂרָאֵל; וַיִּבֶן הַבַּיִת, לַיהוָה. 1 Kings 6: 1; And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Ziv, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.
Rabbinic sources state that the First Temple stood for 410 years and, based on the 2nd-century work Seder Olam Rabbah, place construction in 832 BCE and destruction in 422 BCE, 165 years later than secular estimates.
The greater majority of biblical students today, accept the secular date of 587 B.C., as the correct date for the destruction of the temple and reject completely the Rabbinic dates as to the construction and destruction of the temple and yet believe the erroneous Rabbinic period for the existence of the temple, to be 410 years, thereby erroneously believing that the temple was constructed in 832 B.C..
Whereas, the Jewish historian Josephus, says that "the temple was burnt four hundred and seventy years, six months and 10 days after its construction, revealing that it was constructed in 1057 B.C.
1 Kings 6: 1; In the four hundred and eightieth year after the Israelites came out of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, the second month, he began to build the temple of the LORD.
This gives us 587, the date of the destruction of the temple+ 471, the time that the temple existed before being destroyed +480, the time between the exodus and the construction of the temple =1538 B.C., as the approximate date of the Exodus, which is around the time of the destruction of Jericho.
Whereas, according to the 2nd-century work Seder Olam Rabbah, who places the construction in 832 BCE, we have 832+480= 1312 B.C., as the date of the exodus, some 200 years after the destruction of Jericho.
Kathleen Kenyon, a most respected archaeologist dug at Jericho over the seasons between 1952 to 1958, her results were confirmed in 1995 by radiocarbon tests, which dated the destruction of Jericho to 1562 BC (Plus/minus 38 years) with a certainty of 95%.
The radiocarbon tests which dated the destruction of Jericho to 1562 BC (plus/minus 38 years) with a certainty of 95%, confirm that the biblical date of 1527 BC for the destruction, agrees with Kathleen Kenyon’s findings.
1562 (minus 38 years) [1562-38=1524 BC.] this would mean that Jericho fell somewhere between 1562 and 1524 BC.
Which of the two do you accept, “The Jewish dates which support their erroneous statement that the Israelites were in Egypt for 430 years, and have the Exodus occurring some two hundred years after the destruction of Jericho.
Or the Septuagint, which has the Israelites in the land of Canaan for 215 years, and in Egypt for only 215 years, and the exodus occurring around the time of the destruction of Jericho?
Your argument is faulty.
How can the Israelites have been in Canaan for 215 years before going to Egypt when Jacob (Israel) died at the age of 147 years after having been in Egypt for 17 years? This means that Jacob himself was in the land of Canaan for only 130 years before going to Egypt. And Jacob wasn't given the name Israel until after he wrestled with God after leaving Paddan-aram (Gen. 28:5) as an adult, to return to Canaan (Gen. 32:28).
There was no Israel to have been in Canaan for 215 years prior to going to Egypt. Israel didn't yet exist. While Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are patriarchs, Israel began with Jacob and his twelve sons (the twelve tribes of Israel). Jacob and a total of 70 people from his loins went down to Egypt (Exodus 1:5).
Now read Genesis 15:13 of the Septuagint carefully.
Genesis 15:13 And it was said to Abram, Thou shalt surely know that thy seed shall be a sojourner in a land not their own, and they shall enslave them, and afflict them, and humble them four hundred years. 14 And the nation whomsoever they shall serve I will judge; and after this, they shall come forth hither with much property.
The Septuagint in Genesis 15:13, in agreement with the Masorectic text/Tanakh and with the Samaritan Pentateuch (see post #29), speaks of Israel being enslaved for 400 years (rounded off) in a land not their own (Egypt) after having moved there from Canaan.
Jacob and his family while living in Canaan before going to Egypt were not enslaved. They weren't even enslaved in Egypt until sometime after Joseph (Jacob's youngest son) died and a new king arose over Egypt who did not know Joseph (Exodus 1:8).
Do you understand? Israel began with the adult Jacob. And since Jacob was 130 years old when he and his family moved to Egypt where he died at the age of 147, there was no Israel 215 years before Israel's time in Egypt and their eventual time of enslavement which began sometime after Joseph died at the age of 110 (Genesis 50:22).
And all of this is stated in the Septuagint.
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How can the Israelites have been in Canaan for 215 years before going to Egypt when Jacob (Israel) died at the age of 147 years after having been in Egypt for 17 years? This means that Jacob himself was in the land of Canaan for only 130 years before going to Egypt. And Jacob wasn't given the name Israel until after he wrestled with God after leaving Paddan-aram (Gen. 28:5) as an adult, to return to Canaan (Gen. 32:28).
There was no Israel to have been in Canaan for 215 years prior to going to Egypt. Israel didn't yet exist. While Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are patriarchs, Israel began with Jacob and his twelve sons (the twelve tribes of Israel). Jacob and a total of 70 people from his loins went down to Egypt (Exodus 1:5).
Now read Genesis 15:13 of the Septuagint carefully.
Genesis 15:13 And it was said to Abram, Thou shalt surely know that thy seed shall be a sojourner in a land not their own, and they shall enslave them, and afflict them, and humble them four hundred years. 14 And the nation whomsoever they shall serve I will judge; and after this, they shall come forth hither with much property.
The Septuagint in Genesis 15:13, in agreement with the Masorectic text/Tanakh and with the Samaritan Pentateuch (see post #29), speaks of Israel being enslaved for 400 years (rounded off) in a land not their own (Egypt) after having moved there from Canaan.
Jacob and his family while living in Canaan before going to Egypt were not enslaved. They weren't even enslaved in Egypt until sometime after Joseph (Jacob's youngest son) died and a new king arose over Egypt who did not know Joseph (Exodus 1:8).
Do you understand? Israel began with the adult Jacob. And since Jacob was 130 years old when he and his family moved to Egypt where he died at the age of 147, there was no Israel 215 years before Israel's time in Egypt and their eventual time of enslavement which began sometime after Joseph died at the age of 110 (Genesis 50:22).
And all of this is stated in the Septuagint.
Now read Exodus 12: 40 of the Septuagint carefully.
And the sojourning of the children of Israel, while they sojourned in the land of Egypt and the land of Chanaan, was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass after the four hundred and thirty years, all the forces of the Lord came forth out of the land of Egypt by night.
BTW, Benjamin is the youngest son of Jacob, not Joseph.
How can the Israelites have been in Canaan for 215 years before going to Egypt when Jacob (Israel) died at the age of 147 years after having been in Egypt for 17 years? This means that Jacob himself was in the land of Canaan for only 130 years before going to Egypt. And Jacob wasn't given the name Israel until after he wrestled with God after leaving Paddan-aram (Gen. 28:5) as an adult, to return to Canaan (Gen. 32:28).
There was no Israel to have been in Canaan for 215 years prior to going to Egypt. Israel didn't yet exist. While Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are patriarchs, Israel began with Jacob and his twelve sons (the twelve tribes of Israel). Jacob and a total of 70 people from his loins went down to Egypt (Exodus 1:5).
Now read Genesis 15:13 of the Septuagint carefully.
Genesis 15:13 And it was said to Abram, Thou shalt surely know that thy seed shall be a sojourner in a land not their own, and they shall enslave them, and afflict them, and humble them four hundred years. 14 And the nation whomsoever they shall serve I will judge; and after this, they shall come forth hither with much property.
The Septuagint in Genesis 15:13, in agreement with the Masorectic text/Tanakh and with the Samaritan Pentateuch (see post #29), speaks of Israel being enslaved for 400 years (rounded off) in a land not their own (Egypt) after having moved there from Canaan.
Jacob and his family while living in Canaan before going to Egypt were not enslaved. They weren't even enslaved in Egypt until sometime after Joseph (Jacob's youngest son) died and a new king arose over Egypt who did not know Joseph (Exodus 1:8).
Do you understand? Israel began with the adult Jacob. And since Jacob was 130 years old when he and his family moved to Egypt where he died at the age of 147, there was no Israel 215 years before Israel's time in Egypt and their eventual time of enslavement which began sometime after Joseph died at the age of 110 (Genesis 50:22).
And all of this is stated in the Septuagint.
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Originally Posted by The Anointed
Now read Exodus 12: 40 of the Septuagint carefully.
And the sojourning of the children of Israel, while they sojourned in the land of Egypt and the land of Chanaan, was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass after the four hundred and thirty years, all the forces of the Lord came forth out of the land of Egypt by night.
BTW, Benjamin is the youngest son of Jacob, not Joseph.
And just how forgetful are you? Because you also forgot about Paul, didn't you
Remembering that God's first promise/covenant with Abraham, was concerning the inheritance of the land of Canaan, before he left his father in Haran with his younger brother Nahor. Now read Galatians 3; 17'; carefully. "What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise
Paul agrees with the Septuagint, that Abraham's descendants would be in the land of Canaan and Egypt for 430 years.
And just how forgetful are you? Because you also forgot about Paul, didn't you
Remembering that God's first promise/covenant with Abraham, was concerning the inheritance of the land of Canaan, before he left his father in Haran with his younger brother Nahor. Now read Galatians 3; 17'; carefully. "What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise
Paul agrees with the Septuagint, that Abraham's descendants would be in the land of Canaan and Egypt for 430 years.
Which conflicts with what the Septuagint says in Genesis 15:13 as I pointed out. The Israelites, few as they were at the time, were not enslaved in Canaan before going to Egypt, and they weren't even enslaved in Egypt until some time after Joseph died and a new king arose in Egypt.
Addendum: I will add however, that the discrepancies regarding the length of time that Israel was in Egypt has been a difficult problem which has been worked on by rabbis' and scholars for hundreds of years with various solutions suggested as presented in this article. - https://thetorah.com/how-many-years-...ites-in-egypt/
But, as the text of Genesis 15:13 stands both in the Septuagint and in the Tanakh, it has the Israelites being enslaved for four hundred years. But it is a fact that the Israelites were not enslaved while in Canaan before going to Egypt and that they were not enslaved in Egypt until a new king arose to power who did not know Joseph. So that's a problem with a suggested solution as described in the link I posted.
Septuagint;
Genesis 15:13 And it was said to Abram, Thou shalt surely know that thy seed shall be a sojourner in a land not their own, and they shall enslave them, and afflict them, and humble them four hundred years.14 And the nation whomsoever they shall serve I will judge; and after this, they shall come forth hither with much property. 15 But thou shalt depart to thy fathers in peace, nourished in a good old age. 16And in the fourth generation they shall return hither, for the sins of the Amorites are not yet filled up, even until now.
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