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Evangelicals teach that only a FEW will be worthy of passing through the narrow gates..Can I now say there will be MANY, even a majority of people entering heaven?
Personally, I believe 95% will make it..how about you? what is your understanding?
This is indeed the evangelical mentality..all are lost EXCEPT those like evangelicals---no one gets into heaven unless they are proven to be evangelical material.
You would have more credibility if you did not post things for which you have no evidence
If it is a mantra, then why am I not hearing it? Hundreds of thousands of Muslims are coming to Christ every year, so anyone who claims they are all lost does not know what they are saying.
If they become a Christian, they are no longer a Muslim. No one can serve 2 masters.
By the Biblical standard, they are. However we NEVER say all Catholics are lost.
ah, who is "we?" Oneness Pentecostalism--those guys dealing out the "Holy Ghost" at the UN, would heartily disagree with you; at least a bunch of them would.
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Who is lost and who is not,is only a Christian standard because that is what God says. It is His standard, not ours.
well, rather than argue, i would suggest personally applying those, unless you want to attempt to justify those standards as equating with an ability to see into peoples' hearts. Otherwise, how does this standard alter, in any way, how i am supposed to treat my enemy, or my neighbor?
Are you not essentially going to end up @ "i have the truth, and they need it?" Shall we review the Pharisee's Prayer?
I live in Florida. I have never ran into a someone who calls himself a Christian and says he/she hates "brown people".
These secular fundies love to think their OPINIONS are facts. Their purpose is not to discuss, they bend over backwards to try and show Christians and Christianity in a bad light, However they only shine the light on themselves.
If it is a mantra, then why am I not hearing it? Hundreds of thousands of Muslims are coming to Christ every year, so anyone who claims they are all lost does not know what they are saying.
Muslims are called by the Qur'an to follow Christ anyway; they don't need to convert to Christianity for that. Regardless, i agree with the bottom, but that does not negate the fact that most fundie preachers hold some version of this to be true.
If they become a Christian, they are no longer a Muslim. No one can serve 2 masters.
That's why it makes no sense to say "all muslims are lost" because it excludes the possibility of them coming to Christ, and yet it happens all the time. No one is lost as long as they are still breathing. Christianity has had its day in Europe, and even in US, now the Spirit is drawing people in places like mid-east, India and China and they are coming in like never before. Maybe we are getting nearer to the day when the full number of the Gentiles has come in.
well of course it is never put that way, but instead posits them as "the lost," who need their "help."
the Bible goes into some depth on this concept, and even states that the Word is given to confound those who wish to serve their own ego.
Where does it say that, or is just somehing else you have made up
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Just start quoting Christ to them, they seem to universally detest quotes from Christ
Now I know you are just here to make up things. No Christian detest quotes from Christ. I think you need a new secular fundie web site. The one you are using is making you look foolish.
Jesus Christ was the first evangelical to teach the verse you are referring to. I will let Him decide how many pass through the narrow gates. If you have a disagreement about the verse, your disagreement is with Him, not me. Knowing tens of millions of "brown people" follow Christ is good news to me, not something to be used to challenge His teachings.
Just trying to get an understanding of what the number difference is between the NARROW gate and the WIDE gate..
Is this truly something evangelicals have to insight about? Surely this mystery is easier to decipher than revelations??
As I say, I believe that 95% will be saved by grace...just wanted another "opinion."
Sorry if that was a wee bit challenging...
I guess not everyone knows their Scripture huh?
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