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Old 02-10-2015, 06:00 AM
 
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Science can prove that some of the bible is true and actually happened, although obviously there is much they aren't trying to prove because people have all come to the conclusion that they are myth and not reality.
wow, when one thinks of the lost information when the library of Alexander burned down.
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:36 AM
 
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*Begins slow clap* I love how the title of the article isn't even confirmed anywhere in the actual article. All the scientists did was postulate how they MIGHT have occurred if they did.
Based on the evidence that something did happen. Yes, it would require postulating. I am glad you noted that as well. Now apply that towards how they have been postulating the evolution theory all along in an even more gross manner, because it cannot be confirmed by human history, let alone observed.

Now observe this;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzb4ekyX1kc

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The problem with believing it happened during the time of Ramesses II is that it already disproves the bible since backdating from the founding of the temple would put the Exodus at sometime in the mid 15th century B.C.E. Even if we agree that the bible writers screwed it up and it happened in the 13th century you have another problem. Ramesses ruled from 1279 till 1213. Which means in order for the Israelites to be in Canaan at their first historical mention *The Merneptah stele in 1207* the exodus would have had to happen almost instantly into his reign. It would also mean that the conquest happened over a short lightning like campaign, negating that fact that archaeology says most of the cities Joshua he supposedly conquered weren't inhabited at the time.
Granted, the scientists are assuming that global warming and volcanoes are the cause of these Biblical plagues that wiped out the area; and since scientists as per their point of view, will get history wrong too. An example of how two opposing sets of views can occur while on a dig at Jericho.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYrSkikZhxI

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Ramesses was also a warrior King, who campaigned quite heavily in the Levant during his reign. The bible is funny how in mentions the campaigns of later regional leaders but somehow ignores several of the early ones :-P. Or the fact that they place groups of people like the Edomites and the Philistines in the area well before they arrived. Or that they give the Israelite tribes wide swathes of land to occupy when they were restricted to the western hills around Jerusalem, living in very small scattered villages. The map of settlement is more representative of the map of what things looked like in the 6th century compared to what it looked like in the 12th.
Historians pretty much rely on the works of others and sometimes they take it at face value of what earlier historians have done, and it has been noted that mistakes had been made in their dating of reigns & such in the past once more inormation & more discoveries has been made available.

While scientists can only work on the evidence, it is still postulated with guesswork per their point of view when it goes beyond what is observed or found.

I believe the Bible; since its history connects to the existence of the Israelites today and the Bible does serve as their family tree.
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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Based on the evidence that something did happen. Yes, it would require postulating. I am glad you noted that as well. Now apply that towards how they have been postulating the evolution theory all along in an even more gross manner, because it cannot be confirmed by human history, let alone observed.

Now observe this;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzb4ekyX1kc



Granted, the scientists are assuming that global warming and volcanoes are the cause of these Biblical plagues that wiped out the area; and since scientists as per their point of view, will get history wrong too. An example of how two opposing sets of views can occur while on a dig at Jericho.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYrSkikZhxI



Historians pretty much rely on the works of others and sometimes they take it at face value of what earlier historians have done, and it has been noted that mistakes had been made in their dating of reigns & such in the past once more inormation & more discoveries has been made available.

While scientists can only work on the evidence, it is still postulated with guesswork per their point of view when it goes beyond what is observed or found.

I believe the Bible; since its history connects to the existence of the Israelites today and the Bible does serve as their family tree.
Yes, the chariot wheel discovered by the illustrious Ron Wyatt who claimed to have found just about every biblical artifact ever mentioned. The only problem is he had no training in the fields of archaeology, climatology, history, or geology. And pretty much all of his theories have been discredited. snopes.com: Chariot Wheels Found at the Bottom of the Red Sea
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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Yes, the chariot wheel discovered by the illustrious Ron Wyatt who claimed to have found just about every biblical artifact ever mentioned. The only problem is he had no training in the fields of archaeology, climatology, history, or geology. And pretty much all of his theories have been discredited. snopes.com: Chariot Wheels Found at the Bottom of the Red Sea
Because I know most fundavangelists won't click on the link...


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On 24 October 2014, the fake news site World News Daily Report published an article claiming chariot wheels and the bones of horses had been discovered at the bottom of the Red Sea. While the site framed the "discovery" as recent and newly announced, the Red Sea chariot hoax has been circulating on the Internet for many years.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:03 AM
 
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Because I know most fundavangelists won't click on the link...
They won't. It's almost like they want to be deceived! That's why I've actually thought about starting a creationist website. Why try to fix gullibility when I can profit from it? And if people want to be deceived, how would I be doing anything unethical? It's freedom of religion!

Maybe it's actually the right thing to do...if I donate the money to actual science research. I'd be funneling money away from fundamentalist causes and toward real science research.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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Yes, the chariot wheel discovered by the illustrious Ron Wyatt who claimed to have found just about every biblical artifact ever mentioned. The only problem is he had no training in the fields of archaeology, climatology, history, or geology. And pretty much all of his theories have been discredited. snopes.com: Chariot Wheels Found at the Bottom of the Red Sea
The video of an actual filming is kind of hard to discredit. I can see how by pictures that Snopes could make the claim, but saying so doesn't cut it, and the youtube video has proven snopes false.

Did snopes show any filming of the place to prove that it was not there? No.

Deniers will always deny. Best look with your own eyes and see the truth yourself.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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The video of an actual filming is kind of hard to discredit. I can see how by pictures that Snopes could make the claim, but saying so doesn't cut it, and the youtube video has proven snopes false.

Did snopes show any filming of the place to prove that it was not there? No.

Deniers will always deny. Best look with your own eyes and see the truth yourself.
See post #46.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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See post #46.
Why? As if there are no such thing as archeologists with actual degrees that support various accounts in the Bible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaN2acVMGC8

Go to 17:50 of the youtube addressing the pillar found on each side of the Red Sea crossing that was placed there by King Solomon in commemorating the actual site of the Red Sea crossing.

Did snopes forget to mention that? Yeah. Why? Because he does not want to believe it to be true, and so he spins it the way he wants to in order to favour his point of view in discreditting the discovery.

Funny how everybody can believe in the evolution theory which cannot be observed, but gloss over the evidence of the Red Sea crossing when they want to.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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How sad and pathetic that one must cling to ignorance.
Yes, truly pathetic how snopes ignore other evidence like the pillar on both sides of the Red Sea crossing placed there by King Solomon in commemorating the event starting at 17:50 at the link below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaN2acVMGC8

Spoiler alert!!! Snopes will be proven a liar!!!
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:45 AM
 
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Yes, truly pathetic how snopes ignore other evidence like the pillar on both sides of the Red Sea crossing placed there by King Solomon in commemorating the event starting at 17:50 at the link below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaN2acVMGC8

Spoiler alert!!! Snopes will be proven a liar!!!
In your dreams.
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