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Old 09-06-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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I agree with a lot of what you had said, because it's true. but Jesus also showed one important thing! which was one MUST be doing his Fathers "WLILL", in order to gain life. MANY believe just acknowledging Jesus, is all they need. but Jesus said we Must get to know the Father also if we want life ,(John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent).

satan has MANY "Christians" confused, yet they don't seem to want to see this. from the trinity teaching of a "3 in 1 god". to "Jesus is the Father and he does have a Father", this would confused someone who's truly seeking. it's plainly clear, Jesus HAS a Father and a God, because he said so ,(John 20:17 and John 3:16), which everyone has repeated!

but how can one even do his Father's WILL, if one even refuses to acknowledge his NAME? Jesus gave us a prayer to say, MANY have said it, but not really paid any attention to what they are saying. (Matt. 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name). Hallow basically means to Honor or make Holy. so Jesus was saying that his followers should Honor his Father's name. once we learn to become closer to his Father, we would learn what his "WILL" is. again I agree, "good deeds" will NOT get ANYONE a first class ticket to Heaven.
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Old 09-06-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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The basic problem is, a lack of understanding in regards to what it means to believe to G-d. We think of it as a mere mental assent to a comment, but to G-d it means TO HEAR AND OBEY. Peace
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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The basic problem is, a lack of understanding in regards to what it means to believe to G-d. We think of it as a mere mental assent to a comment, but to G-d it means TO HEAR AND OBEY. Peace
Amen!
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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The basic problem is, a lack of understanding in regards to what it means to believe to G-d. We think of it as a mere mental assent to a comment, but to G-d it means TO HEAR AND OBEY. Peace
And to do that takes the present tense requirement of "be perfect" \ "be holy".

Jesus never revealed that one can on their own "be", or "become eventually" (with some effort on your part) ... it is that revealed truth which is the basic problem for all of those who view Jesus as something other than a substitute \ exchange:
Your filthy rage for his perfection ... thus enabling
  • offered freely
  • complete forgiveness unconditional
  • no worthy proving grounds
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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The basic problem is, a lack of understanding in regards to what it means to believe to G-d. We think of it as a mere mental assent to a comment, but to G-d it means TO HEAR AND OBEY. Peace
Like a good slave?
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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Like a good slave?
one is either a slave to righteousness or a slave to godlessness.
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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one is either a slave to righteousness or a slave to godlessness.
A slave to nothingness
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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one is either a slave to righteousness or a slave to godlessness.
If you a slave to righteousness, you should problem sharing how that works in your life . Care to do so ?.
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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A slave to nothingness
there is no such thing
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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If you a slave to righteousness, you should problem sharing how that works in your life . Care to do so ?.
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