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From the writings of the Jewish historian living during this period Josephus Flavus, Antiquities, Book 18, chap 5, 1-2
Antipas divorced his first wife Phasaelis, who was the daughter of King Aretas and married Herodias. Before this occurred, Phasaelis traveled to her father at Macherus. (Antipas did no know she was aware of his plans). Aretas sent his army against Antipas and Antipas suffered a devastating defeat. This battle took place in 36 AD.
Thus, if we believe as the gospel tells us that John the Baptist was imprisoned by Antipas for condemning his marriage to Herodias, it would have to have occurred after Phasaelis left him, i.e., 36 A.D.
Next, the part of the gospel regarding John’s beheading because of the request of Salome may be simply untrue. Josephus only states that “Herod, who feared lest the great influence John had over the people might put it into his power and inclination to raise a rebellion, (for they seemed ready to do any thing he should advise,) thought it best, by putting him to death”
It’s interesting to note that Josephus’s report of the death of Jesus, Antiquities 18, chap 3, (although considered interpolated) occurs before the death of John.(Antiquities 18 chap 5). Thus the New Testament accounts of the dialogue between Jesus and the imprisoned John the Baptist (Luke 7:18-20) is chronologically questionable.
The New Testament contains accounts of the existence of followers of John who don’t seem to have joined the followers of Christ: Matt 9:14, Mark 2-18, John 3:22, John 3:25-28.
Nothing like an ancient warrier sowing seeds of discord and confusion.
Repent.
According to Scripture, John the Baptizer did die before Jesus died.
That is why John did Not have a heavenly resurrection - Matthew 11:11
ALL who died before Jesus' died can have a happy-and-healthy physical resurrection such as King David - Acts 2:34
They will have a future resurrection under Christ's 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth.
That is why the ' future tense ' is used at Acts 24:15 that ' there will be ' a resurrection.....
Well, if this is the case then who were the saints that came out of the tombs when Jesus resurrected? Wouldn't they have been Abraham, David, Solomon, Ezekiel....and John the Baptist?
You know, I'm sure, the resurrection at the millennium is a recent development. All the apostles and Paul full expected Jesus to return in their lifetimes. When he didn't the theology switched to a future resurrection at some unknown time in order to keep the dogma alive.
Well, if this is the case then who were the saints that came out of the tombs when Jesus resurrected? Wouldn't they have been Abraham, David, Solomon, Ezekiel....and John the Baptist?
You know, I'm sure, the resurrection at the millennium is a recent development. All the apostles and Paul full expected Jesus to return in their lifetimes. When he didn't the theology switched to a future resurrection at some unknown time in order to keep the dogma alive.
Revelation was written for all man, for every single generation and we see things like Matthew 24, and just like Revelation it is discussing a person's movements through feast days like stepping up a ladder to get to Rosh Hashanah, the day no man knows. Those natural disasters are not in any way, natural disasters, they are things happening in a person's walk.
Those Jews had the idea that Messiah comes teaching the secrets of Torah and these are the days of the king that every Jew knows about. The years begin when Messiah comes teaching the secrets and his years are counted as 2000 years, and this Messiah was to come 4000 years after Adam being that it is 6 days or 6000 years appointed to man and these are in 2000 year intervals where Messiah comes on the fourth day, he goes back to his place and then there is 2000 years, 2 days.
After 2000 years a revival comes and that revival is taking place now. In the third day we are raised up, after the 2000 years of the king when he had first came teaching secrets of Torah.
What those Jewish Pharisees believed who believed in Jesus was the end of the world to them and who can deny that what happened to them was in fact a gruesome day?
They expected death, always in the expectation of death and death was quickly found as they were stoned and beaten, hung upside down, tortured and tested beyond any men who have ever been tested.
Rome had taken them over in 6 A.D. and they all expected an end and so the end came with a third of the population dying as they did.
They were brought up to court to court testifying and telling the truth and even then they were killed, their entire nation rounded up in a city with walls where people began to eat other people in a 7 year war in which the sacrifices were cut off in the middle of that week as Daniel had seen.
It was the end.
But revelation is written to every single generation and what happens in that book happens to all that walk with God. We are as dead men with 7 seals around our bodies and we are witnessing a slow resurrection by which a seal is broken, a voice is heard, and a bowl is poured out in the spirit of that person. That great pit that is opened up in the sea is within that person and so too the lawless one, the man of sin, the false prophet, they are all present within people and what happens in Revelation must happen to anyone who walks the walk, any generation.
Last edited by Hannibal Flavius; 08-30-2016 at 04:02 PM..
Revelation was written for all man, for every single generation and we see things like Matthew 24, and just like Revelation it is discussing a person's movements through feast days like stepping up a ladder to get to Rosh Hashanah, the day no man knows. Those natural disasters are not in any way, natural disasters, they are things happening in a person's walk.
Those Jews had the idea that Messiah comes teaching the secrets of Torah and these are the days of the king that every Jew knows about. The years begin when Messiah comes teaching the secrets and his years are counted as 2000 years, and this Messiah was to come 4000 years after Adam being that it is 6 days or 6000 years appointed to man and these are in 2000 year intervals where Messiah comes on the fourth day, he goes back to his place and then there is 2000 years, 2 days.
After 2000 years a revival comes and that revival is taking place now. In the third day we are raised up, after the 2000 years of the king when he had first came teaching secrets of Torah.
What those Jewish Pharisees believed who believed in Jesus was the end of the world to them and who can deny that what happened to them was in fact a gruesome day?
They expected death, always in the expectation of death and death was quickly found as they were stoned and beaten, hung upside down, tortured and tested beyond any men who have ever been tested.
Rome had taken them over in 6 A.D. and they all expected an end and so the end came with a third of the population dying as they did.
They were brought up to court to court testifying and telling the truth and even then they were killed, their entire nation rounded up in a city with walls where people began to eat other people in a 7 year war in which the sacrifices were cut off in the middle of that week as Daniel had seen.
It was the end.
But revelation is written to every single generation and what happens in that book happens to all that walk with God. We are as dead men with 7 seals around our bodies and we are witnessing a slow resurrection by which a seal is broken, a voice is heard, and a bowl is poured out in the spirit of that person. That great pit that is opened up in the sea is within that person and so too the lawless one, the man of sin, the false prophet, they are all present within people and what happens in Revelation must happen to anyone who walks the walk, any generation.
The years begin when Messiah comes teaching the secrets and his years are counted as 2000 years, and this Messiah was to come 4000 years after Adam being that it is 6 days or 6000 years appointed to man and these are in 2000 year intervals where Messiah comes on the fourth day, he goes back to his place and then there is 2000 years, 2 days.
After 2000 years a revival comes and that revival is taking place now. In the third day we are raised up, after the 2000 years of the king when he had first came teaching secrets of Torah.
But revelation is written to every single generation and what happens in that book happens to all that walk with God. We are as dead men with 7 seals around our bodies and we are witnessing a slow resurrection by which a seal is broken, a voice is heard, and a bowl is poured out in the spirit of that person. That great pit that is opened up in the sea is within that person and so too the lawless one, the man of sin, the false prophet, they are all present within people and what happens in Revelation must happen to anyone who walks the walk, any generation.
There IS no revival going on today, Hannibal, sorry. Christianity is dying a slow death by a million cuts as millions of Christians stream out of Christianity and into various other religions. Christianity all but dead in Europe and it's following the downward path here in the US as well. The only places where Christianity is thriving is in extreme poverty-wracked countries like Africa and Southern Asia where the prosperity gospel and the promise of fabulous riches if you contribute to prosperity pimps is tempting people to "try Christianity out". That's all it is. Once these poor people catch on it's all just a ruse they'll drop Christianity like a hot potato.
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American Christianity is in decline...30 percent of Americans ages 18-29 list “none” as their religious affiliation... Nearly 40 percent of Americans who have married since 2010 report that they are in “religiously mixed” marriages [so much for Paul warning not to be unequally yoked]
There IS no revival going on today, Hannibal, sorry. Christianity is dying a slow death by a million cuts as millions of Christians stream out of Christianity and into various other religions. Christianity all but dead in Europe and it's following the downward path here in the US as well. The only places where Christianity is thriving is in extreme poverty-wracked countries like Africa and Southern Asia where the prosperity gospel and the promise of fabulous riches if you contribute to prosperity pimps is tempting people to "try Christianity out". That's all it is. Once these poor people catch on it's all just a ruse they'll drop Christianity like a hot potato.
There is a revival going on where Gentiles are returning to their roots like never before, and this is revival, it is the return of the ten lost tribes.
There is a revival going on where Gentiles are returning to their roots like never before, and this is revival, it is the return of the ten lost tribes.
Amen. And unlike the "Christian" revivals where they were revived just long enough to go back to their sinning because they never came out from among her, this one is producing sons and heirs. Peace
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