The Devil made me ask... Is Chicago Ugly? (North Chicago, Lake Forest: 2015, taxes)

[Hendu]

Originally Posted by wizardofcats

...and your point is?
For your information USSR is no longer USSR. No more Soviet Union there, ok! KGB is no more. it is Capitalist Russia now. If you are talking about China, than there's a different issue. I bet even China has beautiful clean streets. Doesn't it? By the way, there could not be any complaints in regards to the cities of Eastern Europe, esp. USSR, because majority of the cities, then and now are clean and beautiful.
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Man what are you smoking? I've driven through Ukraine and been to Russia many times. Was an expat in Poland for a while too. If you think the streets are clean, I question whether you've been there and if you have, whether you just stayed in the tourist areas.

Let's see...grime covering on all the buildings, litter and dog ****, cars parked on the sidewalk, football hooligan graffiti everywhere, smoke billowing out of passing buses and lorries, miles and miles of communist blocks of flats, etc. I love Eastern Europe and I love visiting former USSR countries as often as I can...but the cities there make Chicago look pristine.

[grapico]

hey anybody remember this game? Houstonguy reminds me of this character. Now I think I want an ice cream sandwich.

[HoustonInhabitant]

Originally Posted by grapico

hey anybody remember this game? Houstonguy reminds me of this character. Now I think I want an ice cream sandwich.

The response I wanted. Thank you. Just don't give up that quickly the next time.

[urza216]

"Over the past twenty-five years, the United States has built the largest prison system in the world. But despite the recent downturn in the crime rate, we remain far and away the most violent advanced industrial society on earth.

Mod Cut. Only two sentences from any source are allowed per T.O.S.. Sorry Urza

-Yale Criminology professor Elliott Currie, 1998


Those are the first two paragraphs of the book "Crime and Punishment In America", by the way.

[urza216]

Some folks in the near south suburbs don't own computers..

You can't be doing THAT bad if you're posting on City-Data. Although I suppose there's always local libraries that give you internet access, at least in America.

[urza216]

Originally Posted by wizardofcats

Urza 216--I do some the library, some at school. You can economize your budget, eat less, and spend money on computer. There are some places where you can get some deal, you just have to know about the bargain What other countries don't have libraries and computers? Only in America?
OMG!!

I've been under the impression that America puts more emphasis on computers and lap tops and cell phones and the internet than a lot of other nations. I wouldn't be surprised if having 15 computers with internet connection in a local library for a town with less than 5,000 people is somewhat of an American thing. Maybe a Canadian thing too.

Many middle class Americans in this day and age can't even imagine the idea of not owning a computer..

[Kitten_Moon]

Based on some pictures, I think Chicago looks beautiful.

[linicx]

Moderator: The topic is Chicago. It is not Russia, finance, movie stars, European cities, games, video clips or any other off topic subject. This is a Chicago specific topic; let's stay on it.

[CityKid312]

I have to agree that Chicago has some bad parts but, the beautiful parts are among some of the best in the country. It is like every other major city in the country and the world. We should enjoy the parts we already enjoy and do what we can to build up the areas that are not as beautiful.

[temp2290]

Originally Posted by chitown85

I'm not disagreeing with you that America has problems, becasue we have many. You brought up the crime issue, not me, when you were discussing how dangerous the crime in Chicago has become. You began by bringing up issues on how Chicago is not clean compared to Kiev and other Eastern European countries. During the Soviet era, particularly in the 1970s and 1980s, people couldn't wait to leave the Soviet Union and come to America. Go up to Wheeling, Buffalo Grove, and Arlington Heights in the NW suburbs and ask all the Russian Jews and Armenians which country they would rather be in, then and now. Ask them how they were treated in the Soviet Union compared to the United States. Ask them about the persecution and hopelessness they felt earning meager sums of money, unable to buy bare essentials.

Many of those people, however, were not complicit in the socialism regime change and so were harassed. Go to modern day Russia and you'll also find a large contingent of those that want the Soviet Union back. That would be somewhat equivalent to settlers in the states during the revolution that sided with the British.

To get back on topic, I think that Chicago has much beauty in all of its neighborhoods. As city dwellers I feel as if we must come to embrace and even find beauty in the dirtier elements of civilized life. Factories and industry are a necessity to our lifestyle unless you're some sort of primativist.