What are the densest, most NYC looking neighborhoods in Chicago? (Washington: high school, casino)

[nearnorth]

Originally Posted by grapico

If that is the case there truly is far less similarity and it'd be hard to make the case.

I'm just comparing recent pictures of one neighborhood with recent visits to the other. You're comparing the same recent pics of one with old pics of the other. Based on current-to-current comparisons between those two neighborhoods, based on the things I listed, they have some obvious similarities. Other posters apparently noticed it, too. That's all. The end.

[prelude91]

Originally Posted by marothisu

There is a group on Facebook called Forgotten Chicago, which I recommend any history buff check out. It's a group, not a page, but there's over 13,000 members. A lot of pictures being thrown around on it from back in the day. I'd say that there are for sure low rise places from what I've seen, that were more akin to NYC back in the day than they are today. A lot of torn down stuff, often replaced with less dense stuff even though today it maybe appear dense. Actually I think it's a shame. I was looking at a pic of the area across from Holy Name around State & Chicago and there were a bunch of row home/business buildings there. Today? Parking lot belonging to the Archdiocese.

One of the biggest differences between Chicago and NYC, is how much of our architecture was destroyed in the name of "urban renewal", where as in NYC, much of the city's buildings have been untouched for 100 years.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by prelude91

One of the biggest differences between Chicago and NYC, is how much of our architecture was destroyed in the name of "urban renewal", where as in NYC, much of the city's buildings have been untouched for 100 years.

Yep, precisely. It sucks how much Chicago has taken away and sometimes it's not just to build something over it. A lot of those vacant lots in town did used to be something. I attended the Center for Neighborhood Technology's anniversary event which had a speaker from NYU talking about this and how (I forget who) wanted to build a highway through part of NYC that would have destroyed a lof of neighborhoods but luckily it didn't. I was also at a small film event in Logan Square a few weeks ago for "Vanishing Chicago" that showed 3 old films - one was about urban renewal in the 60s, another was about some of Greektown being destroyed in the 50s and the last one was in the 70s in Lincoln Park when DePaul started building their stuff and gentrifying that area. Very interesting films.

[prelude91]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Yep, precisely. It sucks how much Chicago has taken away and sometimes it's not just to build something over it. A lot of those vacant lots in town did used to be something. I attended the Center for Neighborhood Technology's anniversary event which had a speaker from NYU talking about this and how (I forget who) wanted to build a highway through part of NYC that would have destroyed a lof of neighborhoods but luckily it didn't. I was also at a small film event in Logan Square a few weeks ago for "Vanishing Chicago" that showed 3 old films - one was about urban renewal in the 60s, another was about some of Greektown being destroyed in the 50s and the last one was in the 70s in Lincoln Park when DePaul started building their stuff and gentrifying that area. Very interesting films.

There was a proposal in the '60s I believe to build a cross-town highway through Manhattan that would have effectively destroyed the neighborhood of SoHo, Luckily it was blocked. SoHo is arguably one of (if not the) most unique neighborhoods visually in the country. I want to punch babies when I see what was destroyed in Chicago

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by prelude91

There was a proposal in the '60s I believe to build a cross-town highway through Manhattan that would have effectively destroyed the neighborhood of SoHo, Luckily it was blocked. SoHo is arguably one of (if not the) most unique neighborhoods visually in the country. I want to punch babies when I see what was destroyed in Chicago

Yeah, that was the one the guy talked about (http://gallatin.nyu.edu/academics/faculty/jkt1.html). He also talked about how some people are moving back into area their ancestors used to live - really small places even just so they can know a little bit of what they went through.

The film about Greektown's old location showed images of the old neighborhood and it looked great. Would have loved to experienced that. I wish I could have known what else was torn down because of these freeways in Chicago. It's a shame and luckily there are organizations out there working to landmark ertain buildings still and to block this from happening to things that have given chicago an identity for a long time. I would have loved to see Little Italy before UIC's campus was built there.

There are a few more enclaves that would have been interesting. In the Gold Coast or near it was a big Japanese enclave up until Sandburg Village was built and then they moved to the burbs. Also as many of us know, the area around Cabrini Green was Little Sicily too.

[edsg25]

Originally Posted by prelude91

There was a proposal in the '60s I believe to build a cross-town highway through Manhattan that would have effectively destroyed the neighborhood of SoHo, Luckily it was blocked. SoHo is arguably one of (if not the) most unique neighborhoods visually in the country. I want to punch babies when I see what was destroyed in Chicago

Robert Moses was one Moses who wasn't going to lead his people to better cities. along with that one, he also had plans for a transmanhattan expressway from the queensboro bridge to the lincoln tunnel. to make matters worse, he had a giant (pun intended) hand in knocking the Dodgers out of Brooklyn (hey, the Giants just went along for the ride)

[edsg25]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Yeah, that was the one the guy talked about (http://gallatin.nyu.edu/academics/faculty/jkt1.html). He also talked about how some people are moving back into area their ancestors used to live - really small places even just so they can know a little bit of what they went through.

The film about Greektown's old location showed images of the old neighborhood and it looked great. Would have loved to experienced that. I wish I could have known what else was torn down because of these freeways in Chicago. It's a shame and luckily there are organizations out there working to landmark ertain buildings still and to block this from happening to things that have given chicago an identity for a long time. I would have loved to see Little Italy before UIC's campus was built there.

There are a few more enclaves that would have been interesting. In the Gold Coast or near it was a big Japanese enclave up until Sandburg Village was built and then they moved to the burbs. Also as many of us know, the area around Cabrini Green was Little Sicily too.

you mean the sanitized/disneyfied version of the remains of Hull House doesn't do the trick for you?

[edsg25]

Originally Posted by prelude91

One of the biggest differences between Chicago and NYC, is how much of our architecture was destroyed in the name of "urban renewal", where as in NYC, much of the city's buildings have been untouched for 100 years.

Penn Station's destruction alone should have them wallowing in shame.

[prelude91]

Originally Posted by edsg25

Penn Station's destruction alone should have them wallowing in shame.

I agree. New York destroyed some great buildings, but not to the scale of chicago. Much of NYC is unchanged (architecturally) than it was 100 years ago.

[MichiVegas]

Originally Posted by nearnorth

I wouldn't have thought to make the Greenpoint-Pilsen comparison, but now that I think about it, they are gentrifying similarly.

And that's your similarity? A neighborhood in Berlin and another in Indianapolis and a third in Osaka are all gentrifying somewhat (which means getting better rather than worse, a characteristic probably shared by 80% of the urban neighborhoods on earth), and you find them similar on that basis alone?