08-06-2013, 08:53 AM
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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I can see gay men accepting straight women in gay bars, but do lesbians get ticked off when straight men come into their bars? Maybe they're suspicious of the guys more so than the other situation?
I knew a gay man who hated lesbians. As for lesbian hanging out in large numbers...There a few lesbian baseball teams having a celebration in the bar across the street. I wandered in to have a beer...once I figured out what was going on - I relaxed and enjoyed myself- I had a great time and the woman who were not bitter man haters go along well with me...I would rather be in the company of lesbians than a bar full of gay men. If I could I would have all lesbian friends...Maybe because I am a lesbian born in a man's body...who loves woman in all shapes and sizes....Seriously speaking - I prefer the company of woman- always have.
08-06-2013, 09:12 AM
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I knew a gay man who hated lesbians. As for lesbian hanging out in large numbers...There a few lesbian baseball teams having a celebration in the bar across the street. I wandered in to have a beer...once I figured out what was going on - I relaxed and enjoyed myself- I had a great time and the woman who were not bitter man haters go along well with me...I would rather be in the company of lesbians than a bar full of gay men. If I could I would have all lesbian friends...Maybe because I am a lesbian born in a man's body. ..who loves woman in all shapes and sizes....Seriously speaking - I prefer the company of woman- always have.
Just so you know, many of us loathe that phrase. Having had the crap kicked out of us, losing family and friends and jobs for being who we are, you have no business using the word. You are simply a straight man.
08-06-2013, 10:54 AM
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Here is an article about why straight women are often so close with gay men.
In reference to the questions about whether gay guys mind straight girls at gay bars, I don't at all. I don't frequent gay bars much, as I find most of them (the Boystown variety for sure) too cruisy. The scariest bars are always the ones with only gay men, standing around the walls staring at everyone like they're food. I'm more relaxed when the crowd is more mixed. Also, I'm always wanting to see more lesbians at gay bars, because it should be a place for them too.
08-06-2013, 03:34 PM
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That dynamic still has a strong novelty factor in the midwest (even more so in the mid-sized cities). They move from a small-town to a bigger city, now they can be fabulous with their gay friends.
?? It's hardly novelty. I have friends in Cedar Rapids, Iowa where being a girl with gay friends isn't a huge deal or "novelty" and Cedar Rapids is about as boring as the world gets.
08-06-2013, 03:44 PM
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Here is an article about why straight women are often so close with gay men.
In reference to the questions about whether gay guys mind straight girls at gay bars, I don't at all. I don't frequent gay bars much, as I find most of them (the Boystown variety for sure) too cruisy.
The scariest bars are always the ones with only gay men, standing around the walls staring at everyone like they're food. I'm more relaxed when the crowd is more mixed. Also, I'm always wanting to see more lesbians at gay bars, because it should be a place for them too.
I've actually noticed this much more at bars I was at in NYC and LA than I ever have in Chicago. I think Chicago is too obsessed with partying and having fun as opposed to what you're wearing, how you look and obsessed with immediately hooking up. I mean I have friends in Chicago who certainly care about their image and what they're wearing/who they're with, but it was NOTHING like NYC in relative terms. People on the coasts seem to have a lot harder time looking at their friends and talking in gay bars as opposed to just constantly eyeing up every person in the room. Trust me, you'll probably hook up...
I went to a bar in Berlin Germany and it was nothing but 100 guys in leather standing around the room in DEAD SILENCE as porn played in the background. My friend and I just got a strong drink and moved on, haha.
I'm certainly no fashion god, but I also don't dress in crap from wal-mart and my clothes at least fit. I got off a plane once and a friend and I went into one of the gay bars in NYC that's more relaxed/dive bar (we've been a dozen times and have friends there so know the ropes) and I was wearing a hoodie and jeans since I'd just come from the airport and it was January. I had some pizza faced tragic looking kid walk up to me while I was at the bar and say "omg, are you wearing a HOODIE in a bar!?!?". I just gave him a "are you fu**ing kidding me?" look and didn't mention the gargabe he had on or the fact his face looked like a horrible industrial accident. Another time at a different low key bar in NYC some wasted guy was going on and on and on to me how his family was related to the VonTraps or however you spell it from the Sound of Music. I was talking with him laughing my ass off inside at the insane crap he was saying. Then he says "so why are you wearing that shirt? That shirt is SOOOOO ugly". I pointed out he was wearing a dirty baseball cap, a tshirt, jeans and flip flops. I was wearing an everyday button up shirt. I mean good god - i'm there to drink and have fun, I don't give a crap what you're wearing. I can't imagine either of them would ever get picked up anyway.
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08-06-2013, 03:55 PM
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Just so you know, many of us loathe that phrase. Having had the crap kicked out of us, losing family and friends and jobs for being who we are, you have no business using the word. You are simply a straight man.
I personally am not offended by what Oleg Bach wrote. Thankfully, I've never been beaten up or lost friends, jobs and family because of sexual orientation.
08-06-2013, 04:29 PM
Location: Tampa
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nd it was nothing but 100 guys in leather standing around the room in DEAD SILENCE as porn played in the background. My friend and I just got a strong drink and moved on, haha.
Interesting synopses. The film "Cruising" with Al Pacino comes to mind.
08-06-2013, 06:35 PM
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I personally am not offended by what Oleg Bach wrote. Thankfully, I've never been beaten up or lost friends, jobs and family because of sexual orientation.
You're not a lesbian, no reason for you to be offended at all.
08-06-2013, 09:30 PM
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Yeah I totally plead guilty to having a lot of straight girl friends. But the people I always try to go out of the way to be appreciative/respectful/thankful towards when I'm in a gay bar are the straight men that are there (and the actually straight, not the DL people--but that's another conversation); because it takes a lot more risk in our society at large for a straight man to walk into a gay bar than a straight woman.
08-06-2013, 10:42 PM
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In general, yes, it's very annoying. But it can depend on why they are there. Just hanging out with lesbian friends, no problem; coming to stare at the young hotties and asking "can I watch" or asking for dates, problem.
Lol.
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People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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