Why don't we get the Chevy Cruze diesel wagon? (hybrid, mileage, purchase)
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Modern CRDi diesel vehicles are far superior to normal gasoline vehicles..
We do...my CR Diesel in my Jetta is great. Yielded 51 mpg on the way to work this morning, and 52 mpg on the way back home. Compared to my gas Jetta that has consistently returned 26 mpg, I'm looking at a 61% improvement with my constant 42 mpg average using my diesel. Compare that with what has been a 10% premium i'm paying in Missouri ($3.79 Diesel vs 3.49 Regular) it's a pretty good savings still. Especially when I consider most of the vehicles I was interested in were going to be burning premium, which still rates higher than diesel, and i'm in good shape.
Yes. according to "his" post. That said, almost every single long-term reliability surveys out there very clearly shows VW as a brand far below pretty much all of GM's brands and wayyyyy below Toyota and Honda. This shouldn't come as a surprise as VW has been near the bottom of that list for decades.
As I mentioned before, to me its easy to see that VW has rather high initial quality. But most are more concerned about "long term" reliability, as in what happens to the car 5 years from now, and if the current surveys are any sort of indicator, VW's do not have a very good track record in that regard.
According to this CR sheet, VW is nothing fantastic...but neither is GM. Buick tested worse than VW, and had worse reliability, Chevrolet tested worse than VW and had slightly better reliability, Cadillac tested worse than VW but had even better reliability.
VW's luxury brand Audi tested better than VW (and everything from GM) and had better reliability than them as well. Either way, I'm more than unwilling to say that even CR's study shows GM is leaps and bounds ahead of the only company that currently offers and affordable diesel engine.
If you don't like the price of diesel I hope you don't have to buy any food or consumer goods because all of that is dependent on transportation via diesel fueled trucks. Maybe you should explain to the truckers why they should switch to gasoline from diesel with your little comparison. Lets see how quickly you get laughed out of the room.
Last edited by evergraystate; 04-17-2013 at 11:38 PM..
In my case diesel cost about same of premium which is about 10% higher than regular 87.
For a similar vehicle (VW, A3) a diesel engine gives you about 50% higher efficiency (42 GPM vs 28 GPM). Even in your case, 50% (MPG) > 25% (in price).
Furthermore a well maintained diesel engine gives almost double life when compared to a regular one, and you'll see the intangible savings as well. Add to it the much better torque, and you'll understand why transport trucks (who put on so many miles) would only run on diesel engines.
And dont forget to include the added cost of maintaining the emmissions equipment added to the vehicles to pass US regs.
Which will be the very interesting part, the automatics in the VW units can cost a bit to maintain as well. I know the DPF currently runs about $2,000, but I imagine costs will come down based on how popular this particular vehicle is in the US marketplace. If this isn't viable, I see an awful lot of cars that will be removing the DPF and having the computers re-tuned. More horsepower, and you can shoot out black soot like a big rig.
Which will be the very interesting part, the automatics in the VW units can cost a bit to maintain as well. I know the DPF currently runs about $2,000, but I imagine costs will come down based on how popular this particular vehicle is in the US marketplace. If this isn't viable, I see an awful lot of cars that will be removing the DPF and having the computers re-tuned. More horsepower, and you can shoot out black soot like a big rig.
Trucks dont even do that anymore... do that in front of me while Im on my bike and you better hope I run out of fuel before you get stopped again and you get alot more than that face full of soot you gave me. Theres a reason that BS is illegal.
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Compared to my gas Jetta that has consistently returned 26 mpg, I'm looking at a 61% improvement with my constant 42 mpg average using my diesel. Compare that with what has been a 10% premium i'm paying in Missouri ($3.79 Diesel vs 3.49 Regular) it's a pretty good savings still. Especially when I consider most of the vehicles I was interested in were going to be burning premium, which still rates higher than diesel, and i'm in good shape.
