Why don't we get the Chevy Cruze diesel wagon? (vehicles, 2013, versus)
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In your tiny little miopic view of the world, VW's are terrible cars. Meanwhile, Volkswagen/Audi group is neck and neck with Toyota for the largest auto mfg in the world... probably because they sell a lot of cars. Cars that consumers aren't afraid to buy/own/live with. GM is in Distant third ~ they don't make any products (currently) that I'd buy because of A) styling and B) quality ~ they're getting better and that may change in the next design iteration or two, but not right now.
Anyway, Mazda is also bringing in a new diesel for their Mazda 3 and *NOT* bring the Mazda 3 wagon at all, in ANY engine configuration. Audi is dropping the A3 wagon in TDI for the 2014 model year.. apparently they aren't a platform that sell well in the US. Takes a certain number to make it profitable enough to justify the EPA testing, and they just don't think they will sell that number. Sucks, but it is what it is... whining doesn't really change anything.
GM is ahead of VW, unless you weren't talking about sales.
It makes no sense to produce a vehicle in the USA that folks won't buy, although I do see 20+ year-old domestic and foreign-brand station wagons on the road out here in Los Angeles, the SUV market is going very well here and nationwide, thanks to perennial bestsellers such as the Honda CRV and Toyota Rav-4, as well as the Explorer, Pilot, MDX & all the rest.
Why would supposed diesel lovers steer away from diesels from GM? The company has a higher reliability track record than current other diesel cars in the US from other manufactures and the engines we would get have been in the EU for years, hence its got a an established track record.
Well... That's how bad those GM diesel cars were.
Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm guessing you're fairly young (under 40) and as a result, didn't have much - if any - personal experience with those cars.
Why would supposed diesel lovers steer away from diesels from GM? The company has a higher reliability track record than current other diesel cars in the US from other manufactures and the engines we would get have been in the EU for years, hence its got a an established track record.
After the debacle of GM's diesels in the late 70s & early 80s, it will be a cold day in hell before most Americans would consider buying another diesel car from General Motors. Sometimes using the public as guinea pigs comes back to haunt you.
I think with the success of the VW TDIs, people are actually more receptive towards diesel.
We wont get the wagon, because GM makes stupid decisions. I think if more wagons were available and marketed properly, they'd sell just fine. Hatchbacks do well here and something marketed as a sport wagon or "upgrade" from a hatch could potentially do well.
But American companies still think Americans won't buy wagons, so they don't sell them. It's a never-ending cycle.
I think with the success of the VW TDIs, people are actually more receptive towards diesel.
We wont get the wagon, because GM makes stupid decisions. I think if more wagons were available and marketed properly, they'd sell just fine. Hatchbacks do well here and something marketed as a sport wagon or "upgrade" from a hatch could potentially do well.
But American companies still think Americans won't buy wagons, so they don't sell them. It's a never-ending cycle.
Agreed, agreed, and agreed.
Back in the day, I drove a Rabbit diesel. 48 mpg, and you couldn't kill the stupid thing. As close as I could determine, through Carfax, the thing had about 450,000 miles on it.
On the other hand, I owned a whole host of full-size GM diesels from the late 70s & early 80s. Bought them non-running, swapped out the crappy diesels with 307s, and resold them. Great money maker.
I was in a diesel Cruze this morning (Taxi in China), They are WAY ahead of US in many ways...
ANd they don't have CARB
And how many car lengths ahead of you was it until your view was completely hindered by smog? China's industrial revolution is vastly supported by their, near complete, lack of emission control. Hardly a trait that makes them an "advanced" society.
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