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Old 11-13-2011, 06:27 PM
 
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Aaaaand they turned me down because of the vaccination issue. *sighs* Back to the search...
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Near Nashville TN
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Oh, definitely. You also need to make sure the owners have a plan in the event of THEIR death.
Exactly. No one lives forever and even the young sometimes die or are killed in accidents. What then? I wonder if these places have something worked out in that case?!?!?!

Like that Kaboodle Ranch in FL. He's no spring chicken... what happens to all those cats when he passes away?
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Old 11-13-2011, 11:26 PM
 
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Exactly. No one lives forever and even the young sometimes die or are killed in accidents. What then? I wonder if these places have something worked out in that case?!?!?!

Like that Kaboodle Ranch in FL. He's no spring chicken... what happens to all those cats when he passes away?

I've talked to enough of them in my quest to know that most do have some kind of plan worked out. But in the end, I guess nothing is a 100 percent assured- you just have to find a place with caring people who can explain their plans, and make sure you do that home visit. After that, all you can do is hope and trust.
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Old 11-14-2011, 12:36 PM
 
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I'm intimately acquainted with The Cat Care Society and they are a safe (overly safe) organization.

I would recommend them without hesitation in the event you did not have a trusted caretaker for J.J.

The women who founded the org has passed away and it continues to thrive, you would have to see their website to see how the org is set up financially.

They appear to me to have done everything well and correctly.
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Old 11-15-2011, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Near Nashville TN
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I'm intimately acquainted with The Cat Care Society and they are a safe (overly safe) organization.

I would recommend them without hesitation in the event you did not have a trusted caretaker for J.J.

The women who founded the org has passed away and it continues to thrive, you would have to see their website to see how the org is set up financially.

They appear to me to have done everything well and correctly.
Yes, it does look good. It's worth considering if the cats can't stay in their own homes.
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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I'm intimately acquainted with The Cat Care Society and they are a safe (overly safe) organization.

I would recommend them without hesitation in the event you did not have a trusted caretaker for J.J.

The women who founded the org has passed away and it continues to thrive, you would have to see their website to see how the org is set up financially.

They appear to me to have done everything well and correctly.
They are a private SHELTER/RESCUE organization.
Their charter is to place cats into homes, not provide long term care, the same as most other no-kill cat rescue.
Their charity rating is very low as they spend only about 55% of their money on animal care and core programs, the rest is spent on fund raising and "administrtive" cost.

You can check them out yourself on Charity Navigator's website. Their charity identification number is 7355.

You can also check their disclosure and operational reports filed with the state of Colorado for yourself. Their Registration number is 20033002470. They list their program expenses at only 53% of revenue.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Near Nashville TN
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They are a private SHELTER/RESCUE organization.
Their charter is to place cats into homes, not provide long term care, the same as most other no-kill cat rescue.
That's not what I would want.

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Their charity rating is very low as they spend only about 55% of their money on animal care and core programs, the rest is spent on fund raising and "administrtive" cost.
Administrative costs? For non-profit charity Rescue? Only 55% on animal care? Something don't sound right.


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You can check them out yourself on Charity Navigator's website. Their charity identification number is 7355.

You can also check their disclosure and operational reports filed with the state of Colorado for yourself. Their Registration number is 20033002470. They list their program expenses at only 53% of revenue.
Thank you for this information. This is why I can't find anyplace for them should something happen to us. There are always some issues involved. My SD is coming over for a visit in a week so I plan to approach her about the cats then. This country really needs the type of places where cats and dogs can go to be cared for for the rest of their lives when their owners die and have an estate that can support them. If I were younger I would definitely look into opening such a place. Not an outdoor place like Kaboodle and Tiger Ranch but with safe accommodations.

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Old 11-16-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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They are a private SHELTER/RESCUE organization.
Their charter is to place cats into homes, not provide long term care, the same as most other no-kill cat rescue.
Their charity rating is very low as they spend only about 55% of their money on animal care and core programs, the rest is spent on fund raising and "administrtive" cost.

You can check them out yourself on Charity Navigator's website. Their charity identification number is 7355.

You can also check their disclosure and operational reports filed with the state of Colorado for yourself. Their Registration number is 20033002470. They list their program expenses at only 53% of revenue.
Very interesting.

There always seems to be something I can't/couldn't quite put my finger on when it comes to the shelter "game"

I have an org I'd like you to find info on for me, the same info as Cat Care Society, plus any additional items.

I'll DM you, thanks
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Old 11-16-2011, 04:53 PM
 
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That's not what I would want.
Thats what they are chartered to do, but it doen't mean they can't do other charity work. The only thing would be if that servuice cross from being a non-profit to a for provite venture.

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Administrative costs? For non-profit charity Rescue? Only 55% on animal care? Something don't sound right.
it is a bit out of whack. It may also just be due to not having someone who knows how to divide the work for reporting purposes. A receptionist is admin but if they also handle incomming pets, thats core program and care. They may only book that time to admin and not divide it up for the true functions being done. hard to say. Soemtimes a call to them gets the answers needed to understand why the financial numbers are not inline.

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Thank you for this information. This is why I can't find anyplace for them should something happen to us. There are always some issues involved. My SD is coming over for a visit in a week so I plan to approach her about the cats then. This country really needs the type of places where cats and dogs can go to be cared for for the rest of their lives when their owners die and have an estate that can support them. If I were younger I would definitely look into opening such a place. Not an outdoor place like Kaboodle and Tiger Ranch but with safe accommodations.
Its very expensive to provide that type of care.

But maybe a new topic is in order along the lines of "What would you pay for X serviice? and What level of care and attention would you require to use that service?" You may want to just start that topic (since so many have me on ignore and wouldn;t repond to what i ask anyways)
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:09 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I do have a plan for my pets, but have yet to put it in writing... so thanks for reminding me to do that. Rudy and Cyrus (dog & cat) would definitely go to my friend/ex-roommate, who now lives in northern Idaho. She loves them, they love her, and nobody knows them as well as I do - considering she lived with us for over three years. Bindi the 4yo cat would probably go to my sister, and Kona the 14yo cat (in the unlikely event she outlives me) to a close friend who's always loved her.

Now my snakes, that's a tough one!! I have a collection of around 30 Pythons & Colubrids, and nobody in my immediate circle has any clue how to care for snakes... nor would they have the desire, LOL. Therefore I will compile a list of "snake friends," who are mostly people I know from the Internet, but a few do live locally. I'll also list some rescues and local breeders who'd be able to re-home them, in the event that none of my acquaintances were willing & able. I plan to give my sister a copy of this whole plan, and I'm confident she would follow my wishes as stated.

Morbid discussion, for sure, but definitely one we all NEED to consider!

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