12-13-2021, 05:16 PM
Location: So Ca
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Who exactly, is going to enforce this? Answer, no law enforcement. A grocery clerk? lmao.
You'd never last in L.A. County, Angry.
And no, it probably won't be the grocery clerk; it'll most likely be the manager. One recently approached me inside the supermarket when I forgot my mask. (I was really embarrassed.)
12-13-2021, 05:18 PM
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In light of the new mask mandate again, look on the bright side ....
The good news is you can get one of these.
https://www.amazon.com/Encased-Beard.../dp/B08N3LW9FN
The bad news is it won't arrive until after Christmas.
But hold onto it for next year because we'll still be wearing them.
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12-13-2021, 05:19 PM
Location: San Diego
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CA4Now
You'd never last in L.A. County, Angry.
And no, it probably won't be the grocery clerk; it'll most likely be the manager. One recently approached me inside the supermarket when I forgot my mask. (I was really embarrassed.)
Trust me, you are 100% correct. I abhor that place. Every and anything about it
12-13-2021, 05:23 PM
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So true. I don't understand it any more than you do. Makes it difficult to say this or that is the cause of it but one thing is certain; numbers don't lie and this has been significantly hard on the older population. Heard on the news the other night that 70% of the deaths happened to those over 65. For those of us over that age, it's a reminder to be just a little more careful, even if we have what we believe to be a strong immune system. You just never know how it will affect you. I would like to see less misinformation out there and people be a little more skeptical of believing everything they read but fear is a strong motivator.
I hope you're doing well and staying healthy, though.
Yes, the 70 to 75% of deaths are those over 65 is what I read....according to the most recent census, 16.5 % of the population is 65 and older........approx 54 million. I don't know what the stats are for hospitalizations and ICUs & "long COVID" for the population as a whole and for those older
https://data.census.gov/cedsci/profi...es&g=0100000US
12-13-2021, 05:38 PM
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Yes, the 70 to 75% of deaths are those over 65 is what I read...
.according to the most recent census, 16.5 % of the population is 65 and older ........approx 54 million. I don't know what the stats are for hospitalizations and ICUs & "long COVID" for the population as a whole and for those older
https://data.census.gov/cedsci/profi...es&g=0100000US
Should be interesting to see how the numbers change on that in the next reporting.
12-13-2021, 05:48 PM
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You'd never last in L.A. County, Angry.
And no, it probably won't be the grocery clerk; it'll most likely be the manager. One recently approached me inside the supermarket when I forgot my mask. (I was really embarrassed.)
There is a small family owned store around the corner. It is posted right on the door for quite some time. "No mask No entry" All healthcare providers require masks.....that even includes a acupuncturist I went to see last week. Perhaps that is not the case down in SD....maybe they just gave the finger to that. SD is about 500 miles from me.....so, it is like another state to me....hence really don't care what they do. I only use N95 masks.....not some mask made out of a tee shirt.
12-13-2021, 05:57 PM
Location: San Diego
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There is a small family owned store around the corner. It is posted right on the door for quite some time. "No mask No entry" All healthcare providers require masks.....that even includes a acupuncturist I went to see last week. Perhaps that is not the case down in SD....maybe they just gave the finger to that. SD is about 500 miles from me.....so, it is like another state to me....hence really don't care what they do. I only use N95 masks.....not some mask made out of a tee shirt.
We really have been wide open here for about a year. Many wear masks in stores but they aren't "required" even for most of the workers. I just can't imagine rolling back into 2020 voluntarily. If the Govt actually was worried about safety they would have bought millions of the N95 and been giving them out in front of places that were issuing the vaccine. It appears all theatre.
I'll wear a mask when they admit they were wrong about everything all along. This should be good.
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12-13-2021, 06:22 PM
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We really have been wide open here for about a year. Many wear masks in stores but they aren't "required" even for most of the workers. I just can't imagine rolling back into 2020 voluntarily. If the Govt actually was worried about safety they would have bought millions of the N95 and been giving them out in front of places that were issuing the vaccine. It appears all theatre.
I think the concern is the possibility of the healthcare system getting overloaded. The Delta is variant is still out there, highly transmissible Omicron variant is here and it is flu season ........finally it is the holiday season & winter....which means people spending more time indoors and family gatherings
12-13-2021, 06:26 PM
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I think the concern is the possibility of the healthcare system getting overloaded. The Delta is variant is still out there, highly transmissible Omicron variant is here and it is flu season ........finally it is the holiday season & winter....which means people spending more time indoors and family gatherings
And...there is no way Gavin can keep people from gathering in their homes. Never could.
If we actually needed more hospitals they've had two years to fund and build them. Or the portable ones used by the military. It's all theatre....
12-13-2021, 07:19 PM
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And...there is no way Gavin can keep people from gathering in their homes. Never could.
If portable military hospitals or workers are needed, they'll be brought in. It's hard to anticipate where the needs will be, except San Francisco seems to have particularly cooperative residents. I don't know if the government is concerned about frustrated healthcare workers quitting their jobs, but that should be a concern and a reason to keep the population from needing urgent care. It of course also is cheaper to preclude the use of services.
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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