California's new ammunition law takes effect July 1st (bill, vacation)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by veritased

Right, for CA progressives, it's a herbal tea, yeah I know, that's fine, keep smoking your tea, I am sure it has no effects on cognition and perception whatsoever. When you get rear ended in traffic by a driver impaired by marijuana, you can argue definitions about whether it's a narcotic or not.

It's not a narcotic, it's a psychoactive drug. Alcohol is an addicting and psychoactive but it isn't a narcotic either. I'm not arguing about definitions, I'm telling you what they are

[veritased]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I am also quite sure you know just about nothing re: marijuana.

"I never inhaled".

I don't have a huge problem with legalization, if you want to get stoned out of your gourd, go right on ahead. I wish the govt would not tax it so much, because that just creates a black market, keeping cartel violence on the increase. The problem is not even really the cartels, they are just making and delivering what you want. It's you, the pot smoker creating the demand and shelling out the constant flow of dollars that is ultimately responsible for cartels jockeying for position.

[veritased]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

It's not a narcotic, it's a psychoactive drug. Alcohol is an addicting and psychoactive but it isn't a narcotic either. I'm not arguing about definitions, I'm telling you what they are

Super duper. I'll remember next time somebody I know gets killed by an impaired driver of marijuana or alcohol, vs an opioid or your strict definition of narcotic.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Basically they want to make sure people who buy ammo aren't prohibited. I think there would have been better ways to do this that wouldn't be so burdensome to people who can legally buy ammo and my guess it that it will be modified in the near future, but I think the intent is valid.

If that is the intent than why aren't they making any attempt to enforce it. It's an attempt at a gun registry at the State level. I don't buy it for a second it has anything to do with ammo since it's obviously not being enforced and too easy to work around.

[Woody01]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Surely even you can see the advantage in not selling felons ammo, right?

Sure , lets not sell ammo to felons. I agree. But let's not penalize me at the same time.......just get more cops to go after the felons.

That would be like making you register to buy booze every time because some bad people drank too much and killed somebody....except it wouldn't be a direct analogy because, unlike guns, owning booze is not a right protected under the Constitution.... but you should be able to get my point.

[veritased]

But Woody, you see, liberals booze up like everyone else, so they would never support any alcohol restrictions to themselves. However, since ammo bans only upset others, they have no problems with that.

Though what they don't know is many independent leaning Democrats voters do not support the increasing suffocation of 2A rights. Even if some of them don't even own guns, these more rational folks are cognizant that choking off 2A allows the precedence of other BofR freedoms to be infringed upon. Unfortunately the others here supporting this ammo ban just don't ever see how they are slowly being encircled by a cage of their own construction.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by veritased

But Woody, you see, liberals booze up like everyone else, so they would never support any alcohol restrictions to themselves. However, since ammo bans only upset others, they have no problems with that.

Though what they don't know is many independent leaning Democrats voters do not support the increasing suffocation of 2A rights. Even if some of them don't even own guns, these more rational folks are cognizant that choking off 2A allows the precedence of other BofR freedoms to be infringed upon. Unfortunately the others here supporting this ammo ban just don't ever see how they are slowly being encircled by a cage of their own construction.

Remind me who here supports a “ban” on ammo. I haven’t read all the 55 pages of posts. But mostly in the recent pages I’ve looked at, I see a number of faux conservatives raising alarm about government conspiracy that’s not being well exposed - mostly just feared in theory. I see some smoke. Not sure yet I see the source ... maybe just imaginations catching fire.

Who’s been arguing in favor of a ban? (Forum contributors, that is.)

[veritased]

OK, go read all 55 pages first.

But first, tell me who are the 'faux conservatives' ... what is a faux conservative. Somebody who says they are conservatives but really liberals? Wolf in sheeps clothing?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by veritased

OK, go read all 55 pages first.

But first, tell me who are the 'faux conservatives' ... what is a faux conservative. Somebody who says they are conservatives but really liberals? Wolf in sheeps clothing?

No, I’m not going back and read all ... the recent 4 or 5 pages have been loaded with conspiracy accusations ... and you are protesting that a number of thread contributors are supporting an “ammo ban”. Examples?

Faux conservatives are most of you who post knee-jerk reactions to anything and everything you feel threatened by and level blame on liberal ideology without examining any logical bases. Example: if a new law is poorly structured and executed, in your mind it must be a liberal plot - as opposed to simple incompetence. Virtually all who continue to support Trump after he has demonstrated such complete mental illness as he has - are faux conservatives. Real conservatives think about issues in relation to classical definitions of the philosophy. And of course the same applies to liberals.

Ideologies are poor excuses for lazy intellects - Tulemutt

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by empireofsun

We need a return to normalcy where Colonel Chivington's such as yourself can cheer the destruction of a sovereign nation in Africa and wildly exclaim as children are blessed with drone strikes. Normalcy also entails burying ones head to a former Vice President stealing tax payer dollars via foreign aid and a white lady claiming to be Red. Clearly, we should take your idea of mental illness seriously.

Well, anyone with half the brain god gave a gnat should - given the evidence is in your face everyday. But then, those without even half a brain ...