Will Gentrification, high housing prices eventually wipe out the poor and middle class? (San Diego: low income, crime)

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Ghost town, Temecula???

When I moved to Murrieta Temecula had about 40,000 people (2000), when I left in 2009 it was well beyond 100,000 and growing. Not to mention the great wineries?

You obviously have not been there since about 1966.

It's not an ugly place to be sure, but it is STILL in the middle of nowhere.

[radiolibre99]

Originally Posted by taimaishu

Why not? Someone has to build up that ghost town. It's been a ghost down for how many years? Guy is creating jobs, boosting the economy and paying taxes.

CA needs more people like him!

Reminds me of the time when idiots wanted Sriracha to leave town. hahahah morons.

I agree with you but it's not a ghost town.

[sdlife619]

I appreciate everyone's feedback.

Even CA inland regions are getting more expensive because the vast majority of residents are thinking like the rest of us. MOVE INLAND for affordability. Well, now many parts of Temecula, inland empire, San Berdo are slowly going the way of the coastal cities of CA. New construction is catering to the upper middle class and not ones making $40-70,000 a year. Every time I see new housing development, the homes and condo's are well over $400,000 at the bottom and are around $800,000 for nicer properties. The property taxes alone on something that high is devastating to the owner.

Plus with taxes continue to increase year after year, I wouldn't want to spend my hard earned money on a house in CA anyway after researching what I'll be getting.

My parents and grandparents had it made with housing being affordable when they were young, now the young millennial generation is really being forced out of California because the high cost of living is only going to get worse.

Sure one can go to college and get a degree, but with all the time you would put into school, the amount of student loan debt one will occur over the years, and then still trying to be able to buy a home makes it seem impossible. Remember the sunshine tax of CA allows employers to pay lower wages to people for professional work that are willing and are desperate to move here from out of state, this gives the edge and leverage to the employer when it comes to hiring, so the local guy gets shafted from someone that's coming from Minnesota while taking a $30,000 a year pay cut just to live in SD or anywhere in CA that is desirable. Local beginning young talent suffers.

Only the ones that are lucky and have parents that actually own a house here and is close to being paid off, truly have a chance to make it. But the ones that are renters, forget it. Trying to save money to put away for a home, with all the bills one has to fork out for everyday expenses don't have a chance unless they are making well over $100,000 a year, and even that's not enough money if you're are thinking of raising a family and being financially secure.

No more complaining, I guess the majority of people that are in my situation will just have to move out of state and leave it to the rich to take all the punches and bs that this state has put onto its residents making it harder and more expensive to live here. That is my plan, I don't want to live way up in mountains in the middle of nowhere sacrificing my commute or quality of life, while I can live in a city for half the price in another state. Las Vegas here I come!

[pacific2]

Originally Posted by radiolibre99

OC to Burbank? Hellllll no. That's too much a sacrifice. In NYC I assumed the train system made commutes more tolerable and their being massive assistance according to a NYC poster in the LA forum.

A lot of NYC's cops, nurses and teachers live in subsidized housing:

2017 Fact Sheet - NYC.gov
"NYCHA is home to 1 in 14 New Yorkers. Our residents are employed as teachers, police officers, nurses – people who provide services that are essential to the City. NYCHA “alumni” include Howard Schultz, the founder of Starbucks, Goldman Sachs Chair and CEO Lloyd Blankfein, Whoopi Goldberg, NASA aerospace engineer Aprille Ericsson, journalist Errol Louis, and Dr. Mary Bassett, New York City Health Commissioner."

[pacific2]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

No more complaining, I guess the majority of people that are in my situation will just have to move out of state and leave it to the rich to take all the punches and bs that this state has put onto its residents making it harder and more expensive to live here. That is my plan, I don't want to live way up in mountains in the middle of nowhere sacrificing my commute or quality of life, while I can live in a city for half the price in another state. Las Vegas here I come!

It's never fun, but you are doing what people around the globe have always done and will continue to do, pack-up and move to a more hospitable area when resources are thin.

Think of it this way, the able and strong adapt (Move to better resources) to survive.

Best of luck.

[taimaishu]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Ghost town, Temecula???

When I moved to Murrieta Temecula had about 40,000 people (2000), when I left in 2009 it was well beyond 100,000 and growing. Not to mention the great wineries?

You obviously have not been there since about 1966.

lol. i wasn't even born yet. it's a ghost town. The only time you see people is when you head over to Pechanga.

it's good that investors are building attractions to the area. Good for the city.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by taimaishu

lol. i wasn't even born yet. it's a ghost town. The only time you see people is when you head over to Pechanga.

it's good that investors are building attractions to the area. Good for the city.

Old town Temecula and the wineries are pretty busy on the weekends

Old Town Temecula Restaurants & Dining

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by Cakeordeath

Isn't that what Mexicans are for?

Not only is that racist but illegal Immigrants can't event qualify for the good outdoors jobs like USPS, park ranger, fire fighter, or police officer.

[slowdude222]

Originally Posted by pacific2

It's never fun, but you are doing what people around the globe have always done and will continue to do, pack-up and move to a more hospitable area when resources are thin.

Think of it this way, the able and strong adapt (Move to better resources) to survive.

Best of luck.

History calls this carpetbagging

[jm1982]

Gentrification is nothing new but the opposite is worse .

Gentrification ends up lowering crime especially violent crime .

Most people want the benefits of gentrification ( lower crime , cleaner environments , more amenities ) but they don't want to pay the higher housing costs of living in a gentrified neighborhood.

"If we understand gentrification to be similar to the definition I’ve offered above, we can realize that gentrification is thousands of years old. Rebuilding and renewing? This was going on in ancient Rome when large villas began to replace small shops in the 3rd century. Evidence of gentrification might arguably date back to the earliest cities and it’s certainly something that’s grown more complex over time."

On Gentrification | The Urbanologist