Why did you...or why do you want to move out of California? (2014, vehicle registration)

[pll]

Originally Posted by lpt2569

I'm going to write a movie about how the hippies of California have ruined the world. And in the last scene, they are all forced by gunpoint to the beaches as the big earthquake hits and they all fall of into the Pacific Ocean. And then the rest of the world rejoices with gunfire and fireworks in it's hippie-free new world order. Thanks for the great idea for the best comedy ever!! I hope you move to my part of the country when you retire, I would love to hang out with you.

Thanks for the laugh!!

[frankrj]

I don't think or believe the majority who left are priced out or are lazy. This is the erroneous thinking that many pompous Californians make when someone decides to choose something other than their state.
The USA is the land of opportunity. So, Cisco systems and many other corporations left due to being priced out of expensive office space? Obviously, no. Talented and smart people do exist outside of the golden state. I've visited many other states and experienced many things I like that are better than California.
For starters, I like the greener scenery you get on the east coast and the change of seasons.

It's closer to visit some of our "so-called" priced out doctors who have practices in Florida, New Jersey and Massachusetts.

What is the problem with the carpool lanes in So Cal anyway, almost all states I've visited have 6am to 10am and 2 to 6 or 7 pm....So Cal it is 24 hours which as a native Californian I think makes even more traffic. Do like the bay area does with time restrictions. Or are those politicians and city planners collaborating on theories with this?

[breeze823]

Originally Posted by frankrj

I don't think or believe the majority who left are priced out or are lazy. This is the erroneous thinking that many pompous Californians make when someone decides to choose something other than their state.
The USA is the land of opportunity. So, Cisco systems and many other corporations left due to being priced out of expensive office space? Obviously, no. Talented and smart people do exist outside of the golden state. I've visited many other states and experienced many things I like that are better than California.
For starters, I like the greener scenery you get on the east coast and the change of seasons.

It's closer to visit some of our "so-called" priced out doctors who have practices in Florida, New Jersey and Massachusetts.

What is the problem with the carpool lanes in So Cal anyway, almost all states I've visited have 6am to 10am and 2 to 6 or 7 pm....So Cal it is 24 hours which as a native Californian I think makes even more traffic. Do like the bay area does with time restrictions. Or are those politicians and city planners collaborating on theories with this?

So true! When we moved it was not even close to being money related. I'm a sahm, and was while we lived there, my husband made a very good living there but we wanted to see something new and I LOVE the green-ness of everything out this way, especially at the beginning of spring how fluorescent green everything looks as it starts to grow, and really love the 4 seasons....looking back, had we stayed, we probably would have suffered more there than here. My husband was in the rv business out there, and out here, for many years until the economy took a turn for the worse and he went back to the car business to wait till things picked up...with cost of living lower out here, it made it easier, probably would have been a tough ride out there...

just about everyone on here comments that the people who left simply couldn't afford to stay, which is not the case at all...

[Voyageur]

Originally Posted by Phil306

I was born and raised in California (46 yrs ago). I will retire in approximately 4 years and, I am out of here. Why? Simple: The liberal/socialist mentality of this state and its people. Its disgusting. This state cannot even balance its budget, year after year. Why? Because of all the free, social give away, entitlement programs, the "hippies" of this disgusting state have passed.

I truly wish the big earthquake would come and this state would fall off into the Pacific Ocean. It has ruined the world...

Forty-six years in California and you still don't understand even the most rudimentary aspects of plate tectonics?

Do you have any other fantasies that involve tens of millions of Americans dying, or is this the only one?

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by Voyageur

Forty-six years in California and you still don't understand even the most rudimentary aspects of plate tectonics?

[captaincatfish]

Originally Posted by Voyageur

Forty-six years in California and you still don't understand even the most rudimentary aspects of plate tectonics?

Do you have any other fantasies that involve tens of millions of Americans dying, or is this the only one?

I don't live in California, true, but I like reading the various city/state threads and exchanging opinions and information...

But really, what got my dander up was the stuff that poster wrote about 'liberal/socialist' and 'hippies', not to mention the thing about wanting the state to fall off into the ocean...

I'm sorry if California is not some buttoned-down, overly starched paradise, where people like that poster can live in a land of milk and honey, wear long flowing white robes, and walk on water from California to Hawaii...but this 'liberals are the boogeyman/bad guy of the moment' jazz is pure steaming bulldirkey...as I said in another thread, I grow increasingly weary of this ongoing liberal vs consevative debate...understood, libs are not completely blameless (oh HELL no on that one), but some conservatives act like they're simon-pure, and do no wrong, and certain bodily fluids don't stink or smell, and they're going to save us unwashed downtrodden wretches from ourselves by waving their magic red white and blue wands, and making America a nice, bland vanilla place again...uh uh---not if I have a say in it, they won't...

Sorry to go on like that, but who said California is some exclusive gated community where admission is granted based on political beliefs, ethnic background, or number of plastic surgeries performed in a year? I sure as hell didn't, and I'll bet a lot of others in the state feel the same way

[Count David]

Did you know that the Indian Subcontinent gets shoved 1 mm more into the Himalayas each year? I wonder if a similar phenomena is occurring in the San Bernardinos/San Gabriels/Coast Ranges..

EDIT: Found it. Interesting, yet somehow scary. Too bad none of us will be around to see the final result:

Wikipedia, in reference to the San Andreas Fault:

All land west of the fault on the Pacific Plate is moving slowly to the northwest while all land east of the fault is moving southwest (relatively southeast as measured at the fault) under the influence of plate tectonics. The rate of slippage averages approximately 33 to 37 millimetres (1.3 to 1.5 in) annually across California.[4]

The westward component of the motion of the North American Plate creates compressional forces which are expressed as uplift in the Coast Ranges. Likewise, the northwest motion of the Pacific Plate creates significant compressional forces where the North American Plate stands in its way, creating the Transverse Ranges in Southern California, and to a lesser, but still significant, extent the Santa Cruz Mountains, site of the Loma Prieta Earthquake of 1989.

Assuming the plate boundary does not change as hypothesized, projected motion indicates that the landmass west of the San Andreas Fault, including Los Angeles, will eventually slide past San Francisco, then continue northwestward toward the Aleutian Trench, over a period of perhaps twenty million years.

[Huckleberry3911948]

not enough winter, misquitos and fire ants.

[pll]

Originally Posted by MtnSurfer

For us CO was nice for a time, but not for the longer term. Now we are fully enjoying being back in CA.

I'm just wondering how long did you live in CO? Was it difficult to get a job when you returned? Are your children adults and did they move back to CA with you?

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by caseycolin

I want to leave just because as a native, I've lived here all my life and want to sample some other places, even if they don't like Californians there.

From my experience there are only about three issues that cause residents of other states to dislike/resent CA transplants:

1) Using CA house sales (pre-bubble burst) to drive up local housing costs;

2) Saying things like, "Well in CA we did (thus-and-such) this way;

3) Complaining about the lack of Starbucks, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, large malls/shopping opportunities close at hand, etc.