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Old 03-11-2024, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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Seattle, San Francisco and even Rochester all have removed parts of interstate highways. Every single time we hear the argument of "carmageddon" and it never comes to fruition. Those cities, SF and Seattle especially, have thrived since the removal of those highways. Buffalo's radial street pattern, as well as the other over abundance of highways can absorb this traffic perfectly fine. If you're worried about idling cars, sync the lights on our major radials. We also need to be investing in public transit to provide a viable alternative.
I am in complete agreement with you, I think they should put it back the way it was. It won't happen, but it would be fantastic. They should get ride of the I-190, which totally destroys access to the waterfront. Its like the new stadium, a domed waterfront stadium would have been a game changer, but the economic realities killed it
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Old 03-11-2024, 11:32 AM
 
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I am in complete agreement with you, I think they should put it back the way it was. It won't happen, but it would be fantastic. They should get ride of the I-190, which totally destroys access to the waterfront. Its like the new stadium, a domed waterfront stadium would have been a game changer, but the economic realities killed it
Buffalo leaders have lost the sense of ambition. We used to dream big, dredging the harbor, the Erie Canal, the park system. It's probably because our most ambitious business leaders from back in the day left. I'd imagine if Wells Fargo and American Express stayed, we wouldn't have fallen as far as we did. Hopefully it can start to change. Wish we'd just remove the city highways and invest in transit.
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Old 03-11-2024, 02:38 PM
 
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Buffalo leaders have lost the sense of ambition. We used to dream big, dredging the harbor, the Erie Canal, the park system. It's probably because our most ambitious business leaders from back in the day left. I'd imagine if Wells Fargo and American Express stayed, we wouldn't have fallen as far as we did. Hopefully it can start to change. Wish we'd just remove the city highways and invest in transit.
In relation to this project, what would be some ideas that you would suggest? For instance, I know that a couple of other Upstate systems(CDTA and CENTRO) are getting or are considering Bus Rapid Transit.
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Old 03-11-2024, 03:18 PM
 
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Funny you should mention that:

https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news...-transit-line/
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:35 AM
 
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In relation to this project, what would be some ideas that you would suggest? For instance, I know that a couple of other Upstate systems(CDTA and CENTRO) are getting or are considering Bus Rapid Transit.
I don't even think it needs to be a heavy investment in BRT/Rail. Those are great and nice to haves in certain corridors. If we can get most routes in the city on 10 minute headways with more through routes and connections in the suburbs, it goes a long way to providing a viable alternative to owning a vehicle.

Harlem, Union, Transit, Milestrip, Southwestern, and Maple should have dedicated routes. I'd also love some limited overnight service on the busiest routes. These are mostly investments in human capital to operate it. NFTA is very reactive, so we're in a death spiral of cutting routes/service, so ridership drops, and more routes are cut.
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Old 03-12-2024, 11:57 AM
 
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I don't even think it needs to be a heavy investment in BRT/Rail. Those are great and nice to haves in certain corridors. If we can get most routes in the city on 10 minute headways with more through routes and connections in the suburbs, it goes a long way to providing a viable alternative to owning a vehicle.

Harlem, Union, Transit, Milestrip, Southwestern, and Maple should have dedicated routes. I'd also love some limited overnight service on the busiest routes. These are mostly investments in human capital to operate it. NFTA is very reactive, so we're in a death spiral of cutting routes/service, so ridership drops, and more routes are cut.
Yes, the investment would make sense due to the fact that 30% of Buffalo residents do not own a vehicle: https://www.transportation.gov/sites...%20Buffalo.pdf

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Old 03-12-2024, 12:34 PM
 
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I don't even think it needs to be a heavy investment in BRT/Rail. Those are great and nice to haves in certain corridors. If we can get most routes in the city on 10 minute headways with more through routes and connections in the suburbs, it goes a long way to providing a viable alternative to owning a vehicle.

Harlem, Union, Transit, Milestrip, Southwestern, and Maple should have dedicated routes. I'd also love some limited overnight service on the busiest routes. These are mostly investments in human capital to operate it. NFTA is very reactive, so we're in a death spiral of cutting routes/service, so ridership drops, and more routes are cut.
Sounds like a lot of money for fewer stops. Going right by shops that could use some business.
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Old 03-12-2024, 02:10 PM
 
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Sounds like a lot of money for fewer stops. Going right by shops that could use some business.
In what way is it fewer stops? All I'm suggesting is more frequent headways for buses.
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Old 03-12-2024, 05:50 PM
 
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In what way is it fewer stops? All I'm suggesting is more frequent headways for buses.
For $102 million?
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Old 03-13-2024, 07:28 AM
 
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For $102 million?
You should've quoted the article thundarr posted then, because my post was only about headways. Aside from that, "BRT" can work in conjunction with additional stops. In Chicago, there is the Western bus, which stops about every other block, and then the Western Express which stops at major intersections/L stops. https://www.transitchicago.com/bus/x49/

So the more frequent Bailey bus can run at 15 minute headways, and an express bus fires every half hour so people get moved more efficiently down the street.

As for the price, the grant is for repaving with dedicated bus lanes, bike lanes, and most likely improves traffic signals to be more synchronous. Not a bad investment imo, infrastructure is an important part of every day life. Those businesses are going to be served with more pedestrian activity.
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