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When red light cameras were still just an idea there were many people like yourself who did not see anything wrong with them.
And here AGAIN is another case of gubmint issued traffic monitoring devices and AGAIN there are people who do not see anything wrong with them.
Are you really this blind?
I've always had a problem with them because there was no human involvement in anything. It was entirely automated, and there was no appealing anything.
This is completely different. This is merely a tool to alert officers that you have warrants or tickets against you. After that, it's completely up to the officers (who, again, are running plates in traffic anyway) to ignore it or arrest you. If they do arrest you, you can fight it just like you would anything else.
This isn't issuing a ticket for an infraction, it's alerting officers that you are already delinquent or breaking the law in some way.
I think you need to explain which laws specifically prevent his scenario from happening. If they can put up red light cameras and speed cameras, without violating these laws then what will stop his scenario from happening? You need to be specific because it is not all clear that the Constitution protects us from that, or worse.
You want me to explain how a machine is prevented from arresting you?
That's up to the car behind to maintain a distance in which it can stop safely.
If I need to stop, I stop.
I don't care what's behind me.
If a child ran out in front of you, would you check your mirror before braking, to see how close the guy behind is ?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, no. I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by johnfrisco
I believe they are causing a lot more accidents. Everyone is paranoid of getting a ticket that they stop short at the light and wind up getting rear-ended. I have seen it myself more than once.
You want me to explain how a machine is prevented from arresting you?
I think you need to quit watching so much sci-fi.
What the heck are you talking about? The premise is: it starts with the license plate readers being used as the cops advertised, to check for stolen cars and to verify insurance. What law stops them from escalating this to tracking your movements or worse?
What the heck are you talking about? The premise is: it starts with the license plate readers being used as the cops advertised, to check for stolen cars and to verify insurance. What law stops them from escalating this to tracking your movements or worse?
That's up to the car behind to maintain a distance in which it can stop safely.
If I need to stop, I stop.
I don't care what's behind me.
If a child ran out in front of you, would you check your mirror before braking, to see how close the guy behind is ?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, no. I don't think so.
Great point, Bobman . . .
However, far too much Logic and Common Sense involved.
What the heck are you talking about? The premise is: it starts with the license plate readers being used as the cops advertised, to check for stolen cars and to verify insurance. What law stops them from escalating this to tracking your movements or worse?
They already can track your movements. Do you know how many cameras the average person is caught on in a single day?
You're assuming they have the money, desire, or manpower to want to know where you are at all times.
That technique is rapidly growing in popularity all around the country. It's a great system that doesn't interfer with anyone's rights, unless you stole the vehicle..!
The local University recently installed the system to control their parking situation. There are thousands of students and parking is at a premium, so they have the system installed in a compact P/U, and cruise the parking lot. Just by driving down the rows will tell them if someone is parked in the lot and didn't buy the proper permit. Your parking permit is assigned by license numbers, so they can spot the wrong doer in an instant. Getting an expensive parking ticket is part of your college education...!
One P/U with this system installed can cover the entire parking system every hour, rather than all day for a guy on foot.
License plate recognition | Number Plate Recognition | Car Detector (http://www.vigilantvideo.com/CarDetector_Mobile.htm?gclid=COuvhaXjn6ACFRsiawoda AlaaQ - broken link)
So if you have car trouble and drive someone else's car to school, you'll likely get a ticket. Brilliant. Like most other things, this is not about safety or catching violators. It's about the money.
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What the heck are you talking about? The premise is: it starts with the license plate readers being used as the cops advertised, to check for stolen cars and to verify insurance. What law stops them from escalating this to tracking your movements or worse?
