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Old 09-07-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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guys, simple example, if you have volume of "A" in the engine, and let's say before air+fuel was "B" where "A"="B". Now you are adding "C"=Hydrogen which make "B+C=A". Remember that "A" never changed. so ofcourse you need less "B" to perform as before. You can argue that we can add more air into the mixture but that will not do good as air is not explosive. But hydrogen is, which will also ignite and burn faster, so you get more power and less fuel.
We also have to remember to let the computer know that more air(include hydrogen) is coming so that less fuel can be ejected into the engine.
I don't know how hot the hydrogen burns into, if it releases more heat than regular fuel then we will have problem with the engines. Maybe car companies are researching on it.
Some people argued that car companies are investing millions to get half mpg, but these people never see that the same car companies are spending billions on AD. I believe it was 2002 or 2003, Nissan's Marketing budget was over 3 billion dollar. Also how many times you see AD of an oil company? Don't you think that, parts of that 3 billion comes from the oil companies? You sell more cars, means you sell more oil, win win for both companies. Only consumers get to suck their thumb and think "Oh there is no alternative solution".
You're forgetting one teensy-tiny little detail: that hydrogen isn't free, and the law of thermodynamics does not bend.
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Old 09-08-2010, 07:38 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I'm afraid Limon, with all of his A"s and B's =C's = A, etc, really add up to BS..!
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You're forgetting one teensy-tiny little detail: that hydrogen isn't free, and the law of thermodynamics does not bend.
Come on you two, don't you know that when it comes to HHO; common sense, sound Scientific facts, and Logic are all tossed out the window. In fact if you build one of these BS..., I mean wondrous devices, that in your vehicles wake will magically be new fields of lilacs and clover instead of pavement and pollution! You'll not only double your mileage, but you will also be more handsome/beautiful, younger, and find your magic sleep number as well. Banks accounts will overflow and all your troubles will vanish like magic.

Why do I mention magic a couple of times, you might ask? Because if this concept which has NEVER been proven to actually work in a controlled study really does work, then "magic" has to be real and all laws of physics and nature can be suspended, if you only believe.
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Old 09-10-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Western Maine Mountains
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In fact if you build one of these BS..., I mean wondrous devices, that in your vehicles wake will magically be new fields of lilacs and clover instead of pavement and pollution! You'll not only double your mileage, but you will also be more handsome/beautiful, younger, and find your magic sleep number as well. Banks accounts will overflow and all your troubles will vanish like magic.
Somebody please start mass producing these devices. I need new pastures for my unicorns.
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:02 PM
 
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i have installed in generator engine provide electricity

it gaves me 20% for 1 hour
and for 2 hours it gave 10% can someone show me some ways to get better percentage using HHO

thanks
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:20 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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i have installed in generator engine provide electricity

it gaves me 20% for 1 hour
and for 2 hours it gave 10% can someone show me some ways to get better percentage using HHO

thanks
They can tell you how, but nobody on Earth can actually scientifically show you how to make HHO work.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Just took a trip from San Diego to Vegas, 25MPG average. I have gotten 30 MPG before. I am not a Car teck and why it works, I do not know. Without this addon I would be lucky to get 20MPG doing 55.
The powers that be have been experimenting with running cars on hydrogen for years.But this is not just hydrogen that I am using to add power to help with fuel mileage alone. It is a small amount of Hydrogen (2 ltr) and Oxygen split form water not 5-seconds before and added to engine. It is a little different to run car on just hydrogen as you discussed a tank with lots of pressure that can go BOOM and you’re off to the MOON. I belt my first Generator for less then $50.00, and a small amount of the highly explosive gas has not damaged anything to date, just to be trueful. It Works If You Work It.
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Old 10-28-2010, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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Mine runs on snake oil, I get 35 mpg in a 1979 F150
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Lettuce Land
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Mine runs on snake oil, I get 35 mpg in a 1979 F150
Well that's all well and good, you being up in snake country in the mid-Sierra, and all that, but those of us down here close to the coast have to rely on skunk oil, and that's a horse of a different odor - let me tell you.
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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They can tell you how, but nobody on Earth can actually scientifically show you how to make HHO work.
snake oil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqXnD...=QL&playnext=2
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I think maybe you're missing the point, which is not that an ICE can't run on hydrogen.
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