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Old 05-26-2013, 06:45 PM
 
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Key sentence in the statement from FIA:



Only Mercedes participated. Just the opportunity to run 1,000km on a circuit, in a series where testing time is deliberately limited, is an advantage, never mind what data they may have gotten about the tires in certain conditions, which none of the other teams have access to.

Pirelli's claim is that nothing Mercedes learned would have helped them in Monaco, which is disingenuous at best - Mercedes got over 600 miles of testing out of the deal.

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Ahhh, according to the FIA though they didn't do things the right way. From the article:

Will have to see how this plays out then.

David Hobbs said during the race that Pirelli is allowed to select ONE team to do "safety" testing. And that Force India and Ferrari had performed similar tests before this race.

So the way I understood it is, only one team can perform the testing at a time and then their turn is over. The next such test has to go to another team and so on and so forth.
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:51 PM
 
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Next races are on NBC again and then CNBC.

Nice to see some gals into the sport.
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:57 AM
 
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They spoke about it a little bit in the race.

Pirelli is allowed to select a team to do testing for "safety" reasons. If I remember correctly, they also said Force India and Ferrari have been selected to do similar tests after previous rounds.

So Red Bull and Ferrari will just have to suck it up.
Yeah, but Ferrari used an old car and a test driver. I don't think you can test mid season with the 2013 car. Let's see how it unfolds. If Mercedes dominates in Canada, things are going to turn batsh*t crazy.
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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Yeah, but Ferrari used an old car and a test driver. I don't think you can test mid season with the 2013 car. Let's see how it unfolds. If Mercedes dominates in Canada, things are going to turn batsh*t crazy.
I agree. I think it's suspicious enough that Mercedes didn't suffer the same problems in Monaco that they have suffered in almost every single race since the start.

It stinks because I really like Rosberg and Hamilton, but at this point I honestly think they probably did gain an advantage by testing the tires.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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I agree. I think it's suspicious enough that Mercedes didn't suffer the same problems in Monaco that they have suffered in almost every single race since the start.
That may be due more to the low speeds at Monaco than anything else, they've had a good car all season, it's possible Monaco just didn't torture thae tires like other circuits..

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It stinks because I really like Rosberg and Hamilton, but at this point I honestly think they probably did gain an advantage by testing the tires.
The higher speeds in Montreal should be a bit more telling.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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Dangit. You're right.
Oh well, should still be good next year with the engine switch back to Turbo.
I just hope some of the less well funded teams will be able to stay competitive. Force India's doing an amazing job so far this season and I'm happy to see the Lotus name carried on in F1.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:02 AM
 
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More on "Tiregate":

Tiregate? The devil’s in the detail | MotorSportsTalk

So the Ferrari test was on a car past the 2-year-old requirement and using a test driver. Mercedes' test was using the current car and current drivers. Interesting to see what, if anything, the FIA chooses to do about all this.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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Yeah, but Ferrari used an old car and a test driver. I don't think you can test mid season with the 2013 car. Let's see how it unfolds. If Mercedes dominates in Canada, things are going to turn batsh*t crazy.
Oh ok. Didn't know that. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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More on "Tiregate":

Tiregate? The devil’s in the detail | MotorSportsTalk

So the Ferrari test was on a car past the 2-year-old requirement and using a test driver. Mercedes' test was using the current car and current drivers. Interesting to see what, if anything, the FIA chooses to do about all this.
Thanks and agreed.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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I just hope some of the less well funded teams will be able to stay competitive. Force India's doing an amazing job so far this season and I'm happy to see the Lotus name carried on in F1.
Agreed.

I think the smaller teams should be just as if not more competitive. I believe the new engines will be cheaper than the current ones.
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