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Old 08-18-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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As much as I think, um, know, Texas overstates its greatness, I think they have great potential to pull it off.

They have a perfect corridor to pull it off. I-45 b/t Houston and Dallas is absolutely miserable. I like to drive, I even look forward to somewhat long drives, but that is one of the most unpleasant drives I have ever experienced. That interstate is at capacity and it will only get worse.

The idea of a subsidy free rail corridor is awesome. I pray they pull it off. It will be good for us and the rest of the country.


I hope someone in Georgia is striking up a conversation with J.R. Central.
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Old 08-18-2014, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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As much as I think, um, know, Texas overstates its greatness, I think they have great potential to pull it off.

They have a perfect corridor to pull it off. I-45 b/t Houston and Dallas is absolutely miserable. I like to drive, I even look forward to somewhat long drives, but that is one of the most unpleasant drives I have ever experienced. That interstate is at capacity and it will only get worse.

The idea of a subsidy free rail corridor is awesome. I pray they pull it off. It will be good for us and the rest of the country.


I hope someone in Georgia is striking up a conversation with J.R. Central.
Texas is definitely one of those states that could pull it off. They have the resources and pride. I drove 45 in rural areas a couple times and it wasn't too bad but it wasn't during a major travel period so it could certainly be worse like you said.

Downtown Dallas to downtown Houston on Google maps was about 240 miles on I 45. What is it for Atlanta to Charlotte on I -85? Not even 250 miles. So practically the same. No, Atlanta isn't quite as large as Houston or Dallas and Charlotte certainly isn't but go a little farther northeast and you'll get to Raleigh Durham. And you also the Greenville area in SC which adds considerable traffic to 85. If DFW to Houston can work, so can Atlanta to Charlotte or maybe Raleigh. But getting 3 states to work together can be difficult. That's one advantage Texas has. They may bicker about which city is better but they are at least in the same state.
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Old 08-18-2014, 12:59 PM
 
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once again, the merits of a charlotte-atlanta-raleigh line could be tremendous for our region.
Not sure if they are big enough, and the terrain along the way is not very conducive to HSR. Texas however is ideal.
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Old 08-18-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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As much as I think, um, know, Texas overstates its greatness,
Hey, Georgia don't mess with Texas!
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Old 08-18-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Not sure if they are big enough, and the terrain along the way is not very conducive to HSR. Texas however is ideal.
The terrain is fine and isn't an issue for ATL-CLT HSR.
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Old 08-18-2014, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Hey, Georgia don't mess with Texas!
You are apparently there, so you know what I'm talking about

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Old 08-18-2014, 02:37 PM
 
Location: ATLANTA
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Hey, Georgia don't mess with Texas!
Could you press CTRL ALT DELETE, ENTER ..... PLEASE?
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Old 08-18-2014, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Just outside of McDonough, Georgia
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I actually hope that the Texas HSR project succeeds, and it should; JR Central (officially the Central Japan Railway Company) does an amazing job with their high-speed rail line, the popular and profitable Toukaidou shinkansen (Tokyo-Osaka). The high-speed rail project in Texas should be in good hands technology and operations-wise.

However, we must be careful with planning for HSR, for the execution may not match up with the proposal. For example, there's the ongoing HSR boondoggle in California. Looked great as a proposal, but there have been enormous cost overruns, date setbacks, and court cases.

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Old 08-18-2014, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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I'm also concerned about the equipment the Texas HSR will use. If they use the Shinkansen, it will be an isolated system, as well as being unable to use existing right of way to access the city centers. The Shinkansen is too wide for the rest of our railroad system so if we ever build a connecting HSR network, it will force a transfer.
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Old 08-18-2014, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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However, we must be careful with planning for HSR, for the execution may not match up with the proposal. For example, there's the ongoing HSR boondoggle in California. Looked great as a proposal, but there have been enormous cost overruns, date setbacks, and court cases.

- skbl17
That's exactly why I wish for Texas' success with HSR. I do not want California's experience to define HSR in the US. California's experience will probably be primarily used as a reason not to invest in rail.
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