01-11-2013, 09:25 AM
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I was surprised to learn that the undergraduate acceptance at GaTech was 50%+ ... how is it still able to be ranked alongside the other top eng schools in the nation like Berkeley, et al ?
Acceptance rate don't really matter. If you have a school where you have thousands of applicants with 2.0s and 900 SAT score then of course you can artificially inflate your "selectivity"
OR if you really encourage each and everyone to apply, you can deny many admissions. The people who apply at Tech are best of the best. Whereas you look at GSU or GA Southern and the top 25% make the bottom 25th percentile at UGA/GT..if they were accepted.
And rankings are determined by more important things such as graduate programs, endowment and research expenditure, academic and employer reputation, undergrad and grad education, citations per faculty, GPA and SAT etc.
Collegeboard has GA Southern listed as "very selective" because they have a 47% acceptance rate. Obviously GA Southern isn't very selective. It's just that stupid people apply and get rejected.
01-11-2013, 09:33 AM
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You also have to remember that UC-Berkley has a lot more majors than Tech, undergrad and grad. They attract less students/applicants because there are simply less degree programs offered there.
Berkley is a beast. I mean look at this..law..medicine..chemistry..political science..biological sciences..earth science..computer science..business..economics..social work...statistics..freaking English & history. All for a public school. Incredible
University of California--Berkeley | Overall Rankings | Best College | US News
And also Cali is a huge state. UC-Berk got 52,966 applicants in 2011. GT only got 14,088. There are also simply less people in Georgia than there are in California.
I hope the USG can become like Cali. We need more Asians
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01-11-2013, 10:09 AM
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How did GSU go down? This is really worrying and I don't understand. As far as I'm concerned, they had a long streak of going up in SAT and GPA...Now they are going down? What is wrong? I'm starting to feel like the diversity they attempt to employ at GSU is what is holding them back. I know GSU can easily have an average GPA of 3.5 and SAT of 1100.
Calm down. A one-year fluctuation of 13 points is nothing to worry about--yet.
01-11-2013, 10:14 AM
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I was surprised to learn that the undergraduate acceptance at GaTech was 50%+ ... how is it still able to be ranked alongside the other top eng schools in the nation like Berkeley, et al ?
Self-selection/self-elimination.
Georgia Tech has higher proportion of applicants that are actually prime candidates for being accepted.
Part of this is due to GT having less options/less majors than a place like UC Berkeley (as someone just mentioned above).
01-11-2013, 11:12 AM
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Exactly. And I'd argue that Tech's curriculum difficulty>Berkley's curriculum difficulty..for STEM majors. That's just my personal opinion. Know people at both schools as well as alumni.
01-11-2013, 11:21 AM
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Btw, Tech has a 51% acceptance rate. 50%+ is a bit a of a hyperbole. Does anyone else find it concerning that Valdosta State has a 58% acceptance rate? What type of people apply to these schools!?
A big part of GT's admission rate is 'who applies?' Those that want to be engineers and those that have great grades. There are likely not a lot fo 3.3 GPA/1100 SAT score kids applying to GT like there are to most of those other schools (including even UGA). That kids has NO chance of getting in short of having naked pics of the president's wife. This keeps GT's admission rate high. I don't think it is a problem as long as the quality of student stays high.
01-11-2013, 11:34 AM
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A big part of GT's admission rate is 'who applies?' Those that want to be engineers and those that have great grades. There are likely not a lot fo 3.3 GPA/1100 SAT score kids applying to GT like there are to most of those other schools (including even UGA). That kids has NO chance of getting in short of having naked pics of the president's wife. This keeps GT's admission rate high. I don't think it is a problem as long as the quality of student stays high.
Basically what I said only with no examples or additional info. But yeah. Acceptance rates don't matter at all.
Don't worry ant, if it makes you feel any better GSU had the same "acceptance rate" as Tech lol 51%
01-11-2013, 11:57 AM
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How did GSU go down? This is really worrying and I don't understand. As far as I'm concerned, they had a long streak of going up in SAT and GPA...Now they are going down? What is wrong? I'm starting to feel like the diversity they attempt to employ at GSU is what is holding them back. I know GSU can easily have an average GPA of 3.5 and SAT of 1100.
What worries me about Georgia State is that not only did they receded back to 2002 levels in terms of GPA AND SAT score, but they also enrolled their
largest ever student population. They also received a record number of applicants. The USG average went up, as did all research universities and even smaller schools saw a brighter, often times larger student body. The smarter students either aren't bothering applying to GSU or they aren't enrolling at GSU. We can also assume many top students go off to transfer to Georgia Tech or UGA. GSU is listed as 4th most transfers to UGA. I'm sure many transfer to Georgia Tech as well. Maybe even other schools like GCSU, Mercer or Emory.
Our prediction was right. I was anticipating KSU to surpass GSU in terms of averages in the next five years, but they did so last year. I stand by what I've been saying all along in that GSU is not doing nearly enough to compete with other schools. They've stood by for too long and now Southern and KSU are actual competitors. With GA Southern alumni now on the Board of Regents, I think they ought to watch out. GSU students aren't even average in our very large University System, and that's very worrisome to me.
But one or two losses is ok. Public universities in Georgia did a great job for 2012.
01-11-2013, 12:52 PM
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It wasn't just GSU that went down hill. In terms of SAT.. Armstrong Atlantic went down, West Georgia went down, Clayton State went down, Augusta State and Georgia Southwestern went down by 1 SAT point lol
01-11-2013, 06:35 PM
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I wonder why GGC has a higher posted GPA than GPC? Now that GPC is also going 4-years, I wonder what it'll mean. Chances are, not much will change. At least I hope not. I really wish someone would merge with Atlanta Metropolitan. Either GPC or GGC, maybe even Georgia State if they can utilize their resources.
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Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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