Design Your Own MARTA Expansion (Decatur, North Decatur: credit, working, single)

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by afdinatl

They want it. It just hasn't been presented to them the right way. That's why it doesn't really count because a real plan with heavy rail hasn't been presented to them yet

Do they want HRT or LRT? Gwinnett Village CID published a plan with LRT. What MARTA can do, and what Atlanta BeltLine/Streetcar are doing as well, is establishing potential corridors. As the study progresses and the LPA is decided, that is where the specific route and technology is decided.

[afdinatl]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Do they want HRT or LRT? Gwinnett Village CID published a plan with LRT. What MARTA can do, and what Atlanta BeltLine/Streetcar are doing as well, is establishing potential corridors. As the study progresses and the LPA is decided, that is where the specific route and technology is decided.

I would say HRT. They have enough people in Gwinnett that would ride it especially if they had a line connecting to Doraville and one to the Perimeter. Like I said it has to be done right and it would pass easy. They just cant say "Bring in Marta" they have to have a more detailed plan to bring to the public mainly focusing on heavy rail

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by afdinatl

I would say HRT. They have enough people in Gwinnett that would ride it especially if they had a line connecting to Doraville and one to the Perimeter. Like I said it has to be done right and it would pass easy. They just cant say "Bring in Marta" they have to have a more detailed plan to bring to the public mainly focusing on heavy rail

Until the citizens see the price tag, it would be at least $2B.

[afdinatl]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Until the citizens see the price tag, it would be at least $2B.

Clayton County has about 264k residents which is expected to bring in $49 million in revenue with the 1 cent sales tax. Gwinnett County has about 859k residents which would bring in at least $160 million per year so it can be done

[sedimenjerry]

Originally Posted by afdinatl

I would say HRT. They have enough people in Gwinnett that would ride it especially if they had a line connecting to Doraville and one to the Perimeter. Like I said it has to be done right and it would pass easy. They just cant say "Bring in Marta" they have to have a more detailed plan to bring to the public mainly focusing on heavy rail

That line to Perimeter Center is key. TONS of traffic commuting to/from there on 285/85. A line to midtown/downtown is only part of the solution.

[fourthwarden]

Here is what the Current Style MARTA Rail map might look like with the following added:

Clifton Corridor
Connect 400
I-20 East
I-20 West
Clyton County Rail



Working to Add more fantasy expansions! Will post more when done.

[afdinatl]

Could someone do a map with a Cobb and Gwinnett Line and a line across the top end??

[MattCW]

Originally Posted by afdinatl

I would say HRT. They have enough people in Gwinnett that would ride it especially if they had a line connecting to Doraville and one to the Perimeter. Like I said it has to be done right and it would pass easy. They just cant say "Bring in Marta" they have to have a more detailed plan to bring to the public mainly focusing on heavy rail

They need to give up the HRT fantasy and just go with commuter rail. There's a nice single-tracked RoW from Norfolk Southern that with some upgrades would make a great commuter rail route, serve the city-centers, bring transit closer to Johns Creek than an I-85 line will, and be as much as five times cheaper!

Originally Posted by cqholt

Until the citizens see the price tag, it would be at least $2B.

Not if they go with commuter rail.

Originally Posted by sedimenjerry

That line to Perimeter Center is key. TONS of traffic commuting to/from there on 285/85. A line to midtown/downtown is only part of the solution.

Agreed, while I don't necessarily think this has to be HRT, it definitely doesn't need to be BRT.

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Here is what the Current Style MARTA Rail map might look like with the following added:

Clifton Corridor
Connect 400
I-20 East
I-20 West
Clyton County Rail



Working to Add more fantasy expansions! Will post more when done.

I like it! Though one tiny little nitpick which I know the existing map makes it hard to alter the existing station symbols, under the I-20 East Plan, the Green Line will also skip Edgewood, Inman Park and King Memorial.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by afdinatl

Could someone do a map with a Cobb and Gwinnett Line and a line across the top end??

They'll be in the next version of the one above.

Originally Posted by MattCW

I like it! Though one tiny little nitpick which I know the existing map makes it hard to alter the existing station symbols, under the I-20 East Plan, the Green Line will also skip Edgewood, Inman Park and King Memorial.

I'll Take that into acount when I make the net version. Any critiques ideas as to how the old and new map could be better are welcome!

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Here is what the Current Style MARTA Rail map might look like with the following added:

Clifton Corridor
Connect 400
I-20 East
I-20 West
Clyton County Rail



Working to Add more fantasy expansions! Will post more when done.

Hmm, interesting.

-You pretty much nailed what the Red Line expansion would look like, except the current proposal calls for five new stations through Windward, not six.
-Ditto for the South DeKalb expansion. But even MARTA has that listed as a Blue Line, not Green Line, proposed expansion. If it were the Green Line, then they'd have to expand Bankhead to at least a six-car platform. Currently it can only accommodate two cars, and it is my understanding that it's only designed to be relatively easily expanded to a four-car station.
-It is very unlikely that the Clifton corridor will be HRT. It is far more likely to be LRT. (Sucks, I know, but that's the locally-preferred alternative.
-The proposed rail expansion into Clayton is commuter rail, not HRT. Remember, the single biggest obstacle to the currently proposed HRT expansions is federal funding. I don't think MARTA is ready to ask for a fourth such project any time soon.

Originally Posted by afdinatl

Could someone do a map with a Cobb and Gwinnett Line and a line across the top end??

Working on it.