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Right, it's the christians who try to 'convert' another person, who try to push their belief on others and act 'holier than thou' but do bad things all the while, that bother me; otherwise I really don't care who believes what. It's as if a straight person tries to make a gay person, straight..what's the purpose? forget it, it won't work...
So as long as people let eachother be and treat everyone right, it should be no big deal who believes what.
In response to the original thread of why Christians have a problem with atheists, I would first ask what is meant mby 'problem'. One concerning thing has emerged in the past few decades, however, and that seems to be the evolution of the atheistic philosophy. Where ardent atheists of the past have disagreed with Christians, there still remained a mutual respect that each party gave to the other. Nowadays, however, the neo-atheist message seems to be that all religious believers are not worthy of respect. This is concerning and I see this as a problem.
Well, from my point of view you have it exactly backwards. The atheists that I know, including myself, have no need to constantly discuss religion (since we have none). The theists, in particular the christians, always seem to find an excuse to include religion in the majority of their conversations.
It's the attitude stupid (note: the word stupid is not aimed at any posters here). That's the simplest way to sum things up.
There are many Christians that I get along with fine with. It's your standard fundamentalist where the problems will arise. I'm sure, no doubt, some of the atheist attitudes are from people who're simply fed up with these types.
I never discuss religion with people in the real world. They have to bring it up and be pretty darned insistent to know what my beliefs are. That rarely, and I do mean RARELY, happens.
The other negative attitudes you may get from atheist are from the scientific community. Once again, I'll use the phrase "fed up" here. Many are tired of, say, evolution (or is it evilution?) being under attack by a bunch of bible thumpers, when there's a voluminous amount of evidence that supports it.
Hearing nutball theories about how "science had been hijacked" or reading books by non-evolutionary biologist or non-evolutionary geneticist (funny how that usually works) about how evolution is a sham is enough to drive some mad.
The source behind it all usually? The bible; a book that none of the same people would dare look at with such a critical eye.
I have heard the war on science is primary an American thing. There's hardly and issue in countries such as Japan and Europe. I can't imagine what the one thing is we have that they lack
One concerning thing has emerged in the past few decades, however, and that seems to be the evolution of the atheistic philosophy. Where ardent atheists of the past have disagreed with Christians, there still remained a mutual respect that each party gave to the other.
Nowadays, however, the neo-atheist message seems to be that all religious believers are not worthy of respect. This is concerning and I see this as a problem.
Perhaps people are waking up to the fact that, 'beliefs' do not automatically command respect. The believer should be respected, his beliefs need not. What is also interesting is how so many Christians demand respect for their religious beliefs whilst denying that same to those of other faiths.
I have heard the war on science is primary an American thing. There's hardly and issue in countries such as Japan and Europe. I can't imagine what the one thing is we have that they lack
Alot of religious folk tend to not want to think critically about something so they let their religion tell them what to think. Religions often say that without god there can be no morality, no happiness and no hope in life. The more conservative religious people take what their holy text says as being divinely inspired so since their religion says it's so, then that automatically makes it so in their understanding.
I seems to me that religious people think that considering themselves a part of a religion makes it ok for them to think of atheist/agnostics as lesser individuals due to their decision to try to impose their personal opinions about baseless statements that they have read from the books that they regard as holy. By thinking of atheists/agnostics as lesser individuals, religious people can feel that they are in whatever way above any thoughts or logical reasoning of atheists/agnostics that expose their holy books and/or religion as indecent, contradictory/hypocritical, disproven, irrevelevant, etc.; this seems to give them a "rush." Religious people decide to believe that atheists/agnostics are out to strip them of their precious rush.
May I end this by saying that I'm not referring to all religious people; I'm only referring to the religious people that have a problem with atheists/agnostics.
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