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Old 02-04-2011, 10:52 PM
 
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Richmond is definitely NOT safe. Crime is even reaching the beloved Short Pump.

Yes crime happens everywhere but when I go out of town and people refer to it as the "Murder Capitol". It is embarassing. Perhaps the daily string of robberies and homicides are not enough for the locals. I don't understand how even the PD arrive so late to the scene and make everyone hand write everything on a pad. Richmond is small and you must know important people to get away with crime.

Perhaps the blinded people who actually still resides downtown cherry pick on what they see. If you think Richmond is safe and beautiful then think again!
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:42 AM
 
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Richmond's crime rate has been decreasing since the 2000s. Go to Wikipedia or anywhere else and it'll say the same thing. And that Short Pump thing was only a couple of robberies and a drunk kid running a red light. Its NO BIG DEAL.
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Old 02-05-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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Richmond is definitely NOT safe. Crime is even reaching the beloved Short Pump.

Yes crime happens everywhere but when I go out of town and people refer to it as the "Murder Capitol". It is embarassing. Perhaps the daily string of robberies and homicides are not enough for the locals. I don't understand how even the PD arrive so late to the scene and make everyone hand write everything on a pad. Richmond is small and you must know important people to get away with crime.

Perhaps the blinded people who actually still resides downtown cherry pick on what they see. If you think Richmond is safe and beautiful then think again!
Haha, nice troll account. You know how I know? "Beloved Short Pump". Only a Richmond City hater would speak like that about that miserable soul-less traffic jam called Short Pump.

I guess those living in the city should be hopeful to escape alive so that we can make it to someplace that's as cultured as Short Pump. I can see it now, a nice dinner out for some Italian food (Olive Garden), some shopping at some nice boutique stores (Best Buy and Lowes) and then some cultural entertainment (Short Pump's movie theater).
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:18 AM
 
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to ajneoa: is that sarcasm? cuz all the way from norfolk people can smell sarcasm.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:36 AM
 
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frank90 must be confused. What city is completely safe? Never heard of one. Also, I've never heard a comment like that when I tell people I live in Richmond.

Your comments made me want to look at a ranking of dangerous cities. It's actually interesting. When I look at a ranking of the dangerous cities, out of the cities I've lived in, the city I felt the LEAST safe in is ranked lower (as in not as dangerous) on the list as the other cities I've lived in. Funny how that works
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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frank90 must be confused. What city is completely safe? Never heard of one. Also, I've never heard a comment like that when I tell people I live in Richmond.

Your comments made me want to look at a ranking of dangerous cities. It's actually interesting. When I look at a ranking of the dangerous cities, out of the cities I've lived in, the city I felt the LEAST safe in is ranked lower (as in not as dangerous) on the list as the other cities I've lived in. Funny how that works
Yeah, usually I'm not as bitter as I've been in this thread, but it gets so old when people make broad sweeping generalizations about a city based on individual events. I believe that there is certainly room for improvement on the crime issues in Richmond, especially the senseless crimes as mentioned through this and some other recent threads, but coming in and saying "Richmond is very dangerous" is ridiculous.

As you probably know from your own experience, there are things you do to maintain your awareness when out in any environment, as bad things can happen anywhere. Richmond is not a "very dangerous" city. It's a city that has some problem spots and some crimes that most places typically see. Those that generalize are usually people with an axe to grind with cities (or a specific city), and they are typically not happy with where they are (which is why they get on a message board to stereotype a whole city of people). I've also found that they're the ones who haven't been out in the city in a while, because if they had, they'd see it's no more dangerous than most other cities.

I've said this on these boards before...I would rather people talk about the crimes and how people in the community can help to make things better. Maybe circulating town hall meetings or have a thread that brainstorms on how we can better cut down on crime (that's specific to the area in question).
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Yeah, usually I'm not as bitter as I've been in this thread, but it gets so old when people make broad sweeping generalizations about a city based on individual events. I believe that there is certainly room for improvement on the crime issues in Richmond, especially the senseless crimes as mentioned through this and some other recent threads, but coming in and saying "Richmond is very dangerous" is ridiculous.

As you probably know from your own experience, there are things you do to maintain your awareness when out in any environment, as bad things can happen anywhere. Richmond is not a "very dangerous" city. It's a city that has some problem spots and some crimes that most places typically see. Those that generalize are usually people with an axe to grind with cities (or a specific city), and they are typically not happy with where they are (which is why they get on a message board to stereotype a whole city of people). I've also found that they're the ones who haven't been out in the city in a while, because if they had, they'd see it's no more dangerous than most other cities.

I've said this on these boards before...I would rather people talk about the crimes and how people in the community can help to make things better. Maybe circulating town hall meetings or have a thread that brainstorms on how we can better cut down on crime (that's specific to the area in question).
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Haha, nice troll account. You know how I know? "Beloved Short Pump". Only a Richmond City hater would speak like that about that miserable soul-less traffic jam called Short Pump.

I guess those living in the city should be hopeful to escape alive so that we can make it to someplace that's as cultured as Short Pump. I can see it now, a nice dinner out for some Italian food (Olive Garden), some shopping at some nice boutique stores (Best Buy and Lowes) and then some cultural entertainment (Short Pump's movie theater).
So defensive about Richmond crime, yet so dismissive of Short Pump. What is it they say about people who live in glass houses? Personally, the city is not my cup of tea, but I don't insult it or those who live in it. And, don't tell anyone this, but people from Short Pump can enjoy the benefits of having convenient shopping, safe, family oriented neighborhoods with sidewalks and community pools, and some of the best public schools in the state and still enjoy the culture of the city.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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So defensive about Richmond crime, yet so dismissive of Short Pump. What is it they say about people who live in glass houses? Personally, the city is not my cup of tea, but I don't insult it or those who live in it. And, don't tell anyone this, but people from Short Pump can enjoy the benefits of having convenient shopping, safe, family oriented neighborhoods with sidewalks and community pools, and some of the best public schools in the state and still enjoy the culture of the city.
I was throwing flack back at the other poster who was so dismissive and irrationally critical of the city (vs. the burbs), whether that was right or wrong. You clearly have your likes and dislikes (your status pretty much explains that), so I'm not going to get in a discussion with you regarding the difference between Short Pump and Richmond City (regarding culture, sidewalks, restaurants, etc.), as we're bound to never agree.

It's clear that my preference is NOT Short Pump, but I agree that I was unfair. In any event, you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine. And, if you look at the title and the ignorant posts earlier in this thread, it should be clear why I was so "defensive"....which I already explained in a previous post.
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Old 02-05-2011, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Virginia (again)
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I was throwing flack back at the other poster who was so dismissive and irrationally critical of the city (vs. the burbs), whether that was right or wrong. You clearly have your likes and dislikes (your status pretty much explains that), so I'm not going to get in a discussion with you regarding the difference between Short Pump and Richmond City (regarding culture, sidewalks, restaurants, etc.), as we're bound to never agree.

It's clear that my preference is NOT Short Pump, but I agree that I was unfair. In any event, you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine. And, if you look at the title and the ignorant posts earlier in this thread, it should be clear why I was so "defensive"....which I already explained in a previous post.
All I am doing is pointing out that there is a whole lot of energy being wasted on this forum by people who refuse to respect the fact that not everyone has to make the same choices as they do. Living in the city is statistically less safe than living in the suburbs. For some it is worth it, for others it is not. My sister just moved here from the NE and she lives in the city and loves it and I would never have discouraged her from living in Richmond--it's perfect for her but I would hate it. I just get tired of being judged for living in "soul-less" Short Pump by "open minded" people. As far as the ignorant statements of others, I find arguing with them tends to accomplish little.
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Old 02-05-2011, 01:08 PM
 
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Yeah, usually I'm not as bitter as I've been in this thread, but it gets so old when people make broad sweeping generalizations about a city based on individual events. I believe that there is certainly room for improvement on the crime issues in Richmond, especially the senseless crimes as mentioned through this and some other recent threads, but coming in and saying "Richmond is very dangerous" is ridiculous.

As you probably know from your own experience, there are things you do to maintain your awareness when out in any environment, as bad things can happen anywhere. Richmond is not a "very dangerous" city. It's a city that has some problem spots and some crimes that most places typically see. Those that generalize are usually people with an axe to grind with cities (or a specific city), and they are typically not happy with where they are (which is why they get on a message board to stereotype a whole city of people). I've also found that they're the ones who haven't been out in the city in a while, because if they had, they'd see it's no more dangerous than most other cities.

I've said this on these boards before...I would rather people talk about the crimes and how people in the community can help to make things better. Maybe circulating town hall meetings or have a thread that brainstorms on how we can better cut down on crime (that's specific to the area in question).
Perhaps you Richmond lovers wouldn't have to deal with so many people bashing Richmond if the locals actually vote and were politically active. I live in Richmond all of my life. I resided in Highland Park in the 90's, Chamberlayne Farms in the early 2000's and now Short Pump. I've seen different areas of Richmond and my opinion is not limited to one area. I've also visited to neighboring cities who does not have as much crime and is much more entertaining.

Yes crime have been decreasing but for how long? I can't see how people hold so much pride for Richmond when it literally not reaching it's full potential. Drugs are a major well kept hidden product of crime. It is easy accessible, I hear. I agree that every city has it's crime and drugs however

Richmond has 6x times the National average for Murders
Richmond has twice as many car thefts as the National average

(according to Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowed )

Not to mention the reputation of being the 9th most dangerous city in the entire country. (as of 2009) City Crime Rankings by Population Group

I propose more community meetings and the questioning of local police enforcement funding and coverage. I also suggest more home owners associations and crime preventative laws. Perhaps more businesses and lighting in downtown areas. The RTD is reporting that Richmond is growing tired of the homeless particularly veterans. However as a VCU kid, I would be more than happy to see no homeless!

I don't feel safe riding my bike or walking the streets even in broad daylight! Perhaps if you guys would feel the frustration of the youth and college kids downtown than it would make sense. However middle age guys living in the surrounding areas wouldn't grasp the situation first hand.
I really didn't have to deal with the issue as I lived in Short Pump the past couple of years, but now I do!

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