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Old 04-23-2024, 08:41 AM
 
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89:5.14 (980.3) 6. Then it became taboo among the higher tribes. The taboo on man-eating originated in Dalamatia and slowly spread over the world. The Nodites encouraged cremation as a means of combating cannibalism since it was once a common practice to dig up buried bodies and eat them.
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Old 04-23-2024, 08:49 AM
 
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All very interesting view points - thanks!

I do think I will choose cremation.

I just have this paranoia that it isn't the "proper" thing in the eyes of the Lord (or whomever is in charge).

The Catholics do not believe in cremation, but evidently the Christians do? Confusing.

My silly brain thinks... "What if we were meant to be buried and just "naturally" merge back into the earth and "artificially" burning yourself in a super hot manmade oven is wrong"?

My practical brain tells me that cremating makes the most sense. A very simple, low cost funeral - basically have me cremated, then do an informal gathering at my favourite park / lake... let people say their things. Done.

And that brings me to the other question... what to do with the ashes? What is proper? Scatter them in the lake / river? Or give it to my loved one to keep on their mantle?
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Old 04-23-2024, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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There is no dirt up mountains where the monks live !!


Maybe they burn the bodies or leave them out for the birds but there are no trees up there either so wood is probably quite valuable. I suppose you could put the bodies in caves and brick up the entrance, or embalm them perhaps?
I hope you're joking. Most Buddhists today live in Southeast Asia. Plenty of dirt around.
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Old 04-23-2024, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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All very interesting view points - thanks!

I do think I will choose cremation.

I just have this paranoia that it isn't the "proper" thing in the eyes of the Lord (or whomever is in charge).

The Catholics do not believe in cremation, but evidently the Christians do? Confusing.

My silly brain thinks... "What if we were meant to be buried and just "naturally" merge back into the earth and "artificially" burning yourself in a super hot manmade oven is wrong"?

My practical brain tells me that cremating makes the most sense. A very simple, low cost funeral - basically have me cremated, then do an informal gathering at my favourite park / lake... let people say their things. Done.

And that brings me to the other question... what to do with the ashes? What is proper? Scatter them in the lake / river? Or give it to my loved one to keep on their mantle?
The catholic church lifted the ban back in 1963.
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Old 04-23-2024, 09:36 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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It probably doesn't matter to the individual involved but does to family members sometimes.
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Old 04-23-2024, 09:48 AM
 
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While I wholly respect people who feel differently, I personally dislike the idea of cremation. There’s no logical reason for my preference, and it’s not an especially strong one. It’s just a product of my Jewish cultural background, atheism notwithstanding.

Of course, I say this with the hope and expectation that my estate or surviving spouse (if applicable) can fully cover the costs associated with a traditional funeral and burial. I don’t want to push that burden onto my children or extended family. If my future financial state doesn’t meet my current expectations, I’d opt for cremation out of consideration for my loved ones.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:17 AM
 
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It should only matter what the person prefers. Of course, finances can change or limit the options. Ultimately, we've got to dispose of the body. It's played it's role, so it's sort of goofy to be worrying it after it's used up.

The only thing to me that should matter is perhaps having a specific spot where the person ends up, whether buried or ashes scattered. Just a place where a person could go to be closest to where that person's body was last located.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:37 AM
 
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While I wholly respect people who feel differently, I personally dislike the idea of cremation. There’s no logical reason for my preference, and it’s not an especially strong one. It’s just a product of my Jewish cultural background, atheism notwithstanding.

Of course, I say this with the hope and expectation that my estate or surviving spouse (if applicable) can fully cover the costs associated with a traditional funeral and burial. I don’t want to push that burden onto my children or extended family. If my future financial state doesn’t meet my current expectations, I’d opt for cremation out of consideration for my loved ones.
That's the thing, the funeral business is a big one - lots of $$$ to be made.

We were already traumatized by the death, so going to the funeral home, going through the minutia of getting this casket, this burial cloth... etc etc was a blur.

After all was said and done the total cost was over $25,000 - that includes the burial plot, stone, the actual funeral etc.

This was a basic funeral. The casket was simple. There was a viewing day, then the next day was the burial.

I don't want to feed into this business. And my pragmatic side doesn't want to waste $$$.

For me, pay for the cremation, put be in a ziplock. Done.

The rest is just friends and family bringing my ashes to somewhere serene and full of birds and trees and a nice lake.

After going through the process I am a bit bitter about the funeral business TBH.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:39 AM
 
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Burial is preferred. Christians bodies are going to come out of the ground and go to heaven.
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Old 04-23-2024, 11:07 AM
 
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And where did you get that idea?
Buddhism has an ugly element of violence and hypocrisy.
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