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Archive: [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20240308093025/https://onlinetextsharing.com/forced-reincarnation-soul-trap-several-cases-suggestive-of-forced-incarnation[/url] (it takes a while to load, but it works fine).
There's the compilation of cases, response to objections, a possible solution and some side notes.
I think forced incarnation is an issue and I'm just trying to warn people.
Here's also an interesting videos on PBM's:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sblunX6kq28[/url] (Common Denominators in Pre-Birth Memories)
It's a compilation of data points from several PBM’s. It’s long (25 mins) and somewhat dry, but worth watching.
I would have posted the whole text here, but City-Data limits posts to a certain amount of words.
For those more skeptical of the existence of an afterlife, I would suggest taking a look at pre-birth memories and NDE's. You can find several reports on YouTube. (They are really interesting). I also heard Ian Stevenson, who studied children who remembered previous lives, produced an interesting body of work; but i am not familiar with them.
i'm not sure "forced" incarnation is the most applicable word.
until a person takes the steps while they are incarnated, to learn and apply what it takes to step off the wheel of incarnation then yes it continues. a person incarnates over and over again. that's a choice each person makes, to figure out how to stop incarnating. or not.
as long as people remain attached to and enamored of this physical plane, they keep coming back. yes that is the case.
i'm curious why it would be termed a "warning though"
that's like warning someone that gravity exists. or that the sun exists. and they are forced to deal with gravity. forced to endure sunshine.
i'm not sure "forced" incarnation is the most applicable word.
until a person takes the steps while they are incarnated, to learn and apply what it takes to step off the wheel of incarnation then yes it continues. a person incarnates over and over again. that's a choice each person makes, to figure out how to stop incarnating. or not.
as long as people remain attached to and enamored of this physical plane, they keep coming back. yes that is the case.
I second Tzaphkiel. There is nothing "forced" in re existences. It is normal way of Samsara, death and rebirth, until one steps off it with a pure effort.
Also, there is a known technique how to revisit previous existence memories.
This is how Sukyamuni could recall his previous existences.
It starts simple.
Learning, how to count backwards. Say 100 up and then a hundred backward, until it becomes without a glitch. Have my word, it's not that easy, as mind is geared towards the forward movement and is thrown aback, when forced to go back.
Next step is, before falling asleep, simple start recalling last events in reversed chronological order. In best detail possible. That's when it become real hard as, humans mostly sleep through the day paying little attention to what is happening.
As one gets better at this, and develops proper concentration and memory recall, he can then expand such exercise into the day previous, and so on.
With time and practice and dedication and concentration, one can reach fetal stage and keep going, until he reaches into the pre conception stage.
There's similar technique, allowing to look inside your body. This is how ancient medicine was so detailed and knowledgeable on human anatomy and physiology.
i'm curious why it would be termed a "warning though"
that's like warning someone that gravity exists. or that the sun exists. and they are forced to deal with gravity. forced to endure sunshine.
Good question. maybe, it's a belief that re existence is some sort of punishment? Must have been concocted by some rather low minds, fearing that. Having no idea, how it operates.
you self-identify as a Buddhist. That is what Buddhism teaches: "Buddhism recognizes that there is a continuous cycle of life, death and rebirth. This cycle is known as samsara. The ultimate aim of Buddhist practice is to become free from samsara. The cycle stops only if nirvana (liberation) is achieved by insight and the extinguishing of craving. Rebirth is one of the foundational doctrines of Buddhism, along with karma and nirvana." Different Buddhist traditions may interpret this in different ways.
how does Buddhism know this? Take that up with your Buddhism teachers and associates. Here is "Ask a Buddhist" online. See what they say.
i'm not sure "forced" incarnation is the most applicable word.
until a person takes the steps while they are incarnated, to learn and apply what it takes to step off the wheel of incarnation then yes it continues. a person incarnates over and over again. that's a choice each person makes, to figure out how to stop incarnating. or not.
I don't think there's any evidence that a certain set of "steps" will lead to the end of the reincarnation cycle. Sure, you can try living a detached and virtuous life and follow a certain religion, but is there data to support the argument that such thing will help you stop reincarnating?
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as long as people remain attached to and enamored of this physical plane, they keep coming back. yes that is the case.
As I've tried to demonstrate in my post, people are not coming back because they are "enamored and attached" to this physical plane. They are just told what to do by other beings (apparently) more powerful than then. This is also a similar theme in NDE's: the experiencer seldom cares about his earthly life, yet he's told he must go back to "fulfill a mission" or something of the sort.
i'm curious why it would be termed a "warning though"
that's like warning someone that gravity exists. or that the sun exists. and they are forced to deal with gravity. forced to endure sunshine.
That equates what's happening with a law of nature. An apple does not need a "guide" to tell it must fall off the branch. It just does. In my post, people report being coerced by entities with apparent more power than them.
you self-identify as a Buddhist. That is what Buddhism teaches: "Buddhism recognizes that there is a continuous cycle of life, death and rebirth. This cycle is known as samsara. The ultimate aim of Buddhist practice is to become free from samsara. The cycle stops only if nirvana (liberation) is achieved by insight and the extinguishing of craving. Rebirth is one of the foundational doctrines of Buddhism, along with karma and nirvana." Different Buddhist traditions may interpret this in different ways.
how does Buddhism know this? Take that up with your Buddhism teachers and associates. Here is "Ask a Buddhist" online. See what they say.
I know the Buddhist viewpoint on this.
I am asking you how you personally know this...since you seem to be stating it as fact. Once again, you seem to portray yourself as the font of knowledge of every religion on earth. I want to know how you do that.
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