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Old 06-11-2023, 10:33 AM
 
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Except you never said that, you said Hinduism is monistic, not just Advaita Vedanta. Just a Simple Guy was also saying you were wrong.

That you need to twist that and play the sexist card is amusing.
Hinduism is monism, if one needs to define it although it has no meaning for Hindus. The basic view is one supreme being exists, be it Vishnu, Devi, Or Shiva. Advaita Vedanta is not a religion. Hindus do not have a term for religion in any of the languages the speak. Instead of wikipedia Ask a Hindu, there is a whole thread.
Hindus have conflicts all humans do. But nobody is conflicted about whom they pray to, or how many gods are there. There is only One.
Your extent of not-knowing is embarrassing.
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Old 06-11-2023, 10:35 AM
 
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This is a forum for discussing religion. I know it helps a certain way of thinking, and interests, to keep people divided, everyone in their place, hating each other and in constant turmoil by stirring the pot.
But religion unites people, spirituality is a singular force. It cuts through constructed border walls. That is the way it is.
Sometimes religion unites people for the right reasons. Sometimes religion unites people for the wrong reasons.

You can stop stirring the pot, also, such as always accusing others of hate.
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Old 06-11-2023, 10:35 AM
 
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Sometimes religion unites people for the right reasons. Sometimes religion unites people for the wrong reasons.

You can stop stirring the pot, also, such as always accusing others of hate.
It it fits.
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Old 06-11-2023, 10:37 AM
 
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Then one should do so. A very good healing for the mind.
So I will expect to see a change in attitude about atheists.
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Old 06-11-2023, 12:44 PM
 
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I need copies of "Hinduism for Dummies" and "Physics for Dummies." But from what little I've read and understand, Hinduism is a religion that intersects with science. I find that delightful.

I think early practitioners intuited concepts that took science students millennia to theorize. And I understand that many prominent physicists are of the Hindu faith.

But, and this is not the main subject of my post, I would be very careful of stating that any particular religion or lack of religion is more or less damaging than the others. Seems like a bizarre approach to beliefs to live by.

In the case of suffering I am reminded of a story told by an explorer in a Hindu country who had enlisted the aid of a guide. When it was time to eat the guide caught a bird and butchered it alive which put the explorer off his appetite. He chastised his guide about causing the bird pain and the guide responded, "It doesn't matter. It won't last very long."

Seems like most humans, religious and otherwise, struggle with the problem of earthly pain.
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Old 06-11-2023, 02:15 PM
 
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I need copies of "Hinduism for Dummies" and "Physics for Dummies." But from what little I've read and understand, Hinduism is a religion that intersects with science. I find that delightful.

I think early practitioners intuited concepts that took science students millennia to theorize. And I understand that many prominent physicists are of the Hindu faith.

But, and this is not the main subject of my post, I would be very careful of stating that any particular religion or lack of religion is more or less damaging than the others. Seems like a bizarre approach to beliefs to live by.

In the case of suffering I am reminded of a story told by an explorer in a Hindu country who had enlisted the aid of a guide. When it was time to eat the guide caught a bird and butchered it alive which put the explorer off his appetite. He chastised his guide about causing the bird pain and the guide responded, "It doesn't matter. It won't last very long."

Seems like most humans, religious and otherwise, struggle with the problem of earthly pain.
You seem to have a pretty good and accurate grasp of Hinduism and Science.
Hinduism has no conflict with science because it treats knowledge as sacred. All knowledge is scared, and science is knowledge. There is no conflict. There are several prominent Hindu scientist, the most famous being the Sir.C.V. Raman and equally famous his son. Dr.C.V. Chandrashaker, the astrophysicist.
Indian Scientists
Not all are Hindus, majority are. Dr. Abdul Kalam, a Muslim, who was also the President of India, ran the space program. Several of them are women.

I agree with your statement about any particular religion or lack of it being more damaging. People can and do a lot of damage to themselves and others. A lot of people also do heroic and selfless good for humanity. We are capable of both, religion is not the reason. Although religion can inspire and sustain them in their struggles.
Was the explorer a vegetarian? Otherwise how did he thing his meat was obtained without pain and suffering?
Suffering is a human condition, until we learn how to find relief from it.
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Old 06-11-2023, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Sadly much is lost by this, and the person does not even know what is lost.
That person would be you.

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On the other hand Hinduism, in particular Advaita Vedanta, does not present the same difficulties.
How would you know since you've never studied any of the other Hindu sects and cannot explain why you elevate the Advaita sect above much older sects.

In that regard, you're a lot like the Hebrews who elevated Yahweh above the other gods in the Hebrew pantheon without really understanding why.
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Old 06-11-2023, 04:36 PM
 
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That person would be you.



How would you know since you've never studied any of the other Hindu sects and cannot explain why you elevate the Advaita sect above much older sects.

In that regard, you're a lot like the Hebrews who elevated Yahweh above the other gods in the Hebrew pantheon without really understanding why.
What specific sects are you talking about and why do you never answer that same question every time? Since you claim to have studied all these sects, let us have some names. Otherwise i have to conclude you are simply lying. The fact that you keep repeatedly calling Advaita a sect is a big clue that you know nothing.
As for those biblical comparisons you keep making about me? Water off ducks back, or off lotus leaf. They mean nothing to me. What is the Hebrew? I bet you know nothing about that either. truly embarrassing.
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Old 06-11-2023, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Florida
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As evidenced here and on a regular basis words are often used to cut people down.
I try to make sure they are not my words.

Which is in itself, a form of practicing my faith.
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Old 06-12-2023, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Hinduism is monism, if one needs to define it although it has no meaning for Hindus. The basic view is one supreme being exists, be it Vishnu, Devi, Or Shiva. Advaita Vedanta is not a religion. Hindus do not have a term for religion in any of the languages the speak. Instead of wikipedia Ask a Hindu, there is a whole thread.
Hindus have conflicts all humans do. But nobody is conflicted about whom they pray to, or how many gods are there. There is only One.
Your extent of not-knowing is embarrassing.
You do know there are atheist Hindus?

And Panentheists?
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