Ye shall know them by their fruits... (faith, Catholics, pray)

[TMSRetired]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

Intersting you should mention the Sermon On The Mount.

I think much of it is great advice for what happens after death. Not always such good advice for living.

It can be if you don't take the words literally.

For example..."turn the other cheek" to me means don't seek revenge or vengeance or get all bent out of shape for something someone said/did (crimes excluded of course). That's my own interpretation.

Just "turn the other cheek" and continue on with your life.

[hljc]

The fruit of the spirit is Christianity with is by No mean an occult as Jesus Christ is supernatural and not just natural like the spirits of occult .................... The spirit fruits are Love and charity, Joy, peace, long-suffering, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, self-control, gentleness, .................... as these are the fruits of the spirits which are not natural human fruits, and must come from God as people who engage in these which are important for heaven but are through the spirit of Christ, can occur without help in the natural, like for example : Joy is profoundly right there with no effort, or peace or kindness right there in their spirit space

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by TMSRetired

It can be if you don't take the words literally.

For example..."turn the other cheek" to me means don't seek revenge or vengeance or get all bent out of shape for something someone said/did (crimes excluded of course). That's my own interpretation.

Just "turn the other cheek" and continue on with your life.

Do you think the most successful people IN LIFE are the meek?

[TMSRetired]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

Do you think the most successful people IN LIFE are the meek?

Most people define success in terms of wealth and status. Is that what you mean ?

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by TMSRetired

Most people define success in terms of wealth and status. Is that what you mean ?

Those can be standards of success, but it is not limited to those.

But think of the wording. The very wording implies that Jesus was talking about AFTER life...in DEATH.

But thanks for evading the question.

[Matthew 4:4]

Originally Posted by TMSRetired

It can be if you don't take the words literally.
For example..."turn the other cheek" to me means don't seek revenge or vengeance or get all bent out of shape for something someone said/did (crimes excluded of course). That's my own interpretation.
Just "turn the other cheek" and continue on with your life.

When a person was challenged to a duel we can picture someone with a glove slapping another person's cheek.
A slap on one cheek as an insult to provoke.
So, 'just turn the other cheek' and continue on with your life.

[considerforamoment]

My guess is people of Jewish faith. I don't know too much about their religion but I think they do good things.

Sounds asinine but that's my guess.

[TMSRetired]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

Those can be standards of success, but it is not limited to those.

But think of the wording. The very wording implies that Jesus was talking about AFTER life...in DEATH.

But thanks for evading the question.

I didn't evade the question. It was too vague as noted in my comment back to you with a question.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by TMSRetired

I didn't evade the question. It was too vague as noted in my comment back to you with a question.

I'm sorry, but that response shows a lack of meekness.

[cb2008]

Originally Posted by TMSRetired

I didn't evade the question. It was too vague as noted in my comment back to you with a question.

When reaching a dead end, the dead becomes “evading the question.” Ot to worry, it is all in the startegy.