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Old 11-15-2022, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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How do believers and non-believers who consider themselves spiritual, look at this question?
Before the Earth was created, we were.

Thats my opinion, and I figure I am good company of those who believe that we fell here.
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:35 PM
 
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Before the Earth was created, we were.

Thats my opinion, and I figure I am good company of those who believe that we fell here.
Before the Earth was created, we were.
YES
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:03 AM
 
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You are being quite pedantic for someone rational and "allegedly" knowledgeable about the underlying science. Every manifestation of our Reality is a form of the energy composite that comprises it. Is that conceptually beyond your grasp? What is the energy composite that represents our mind (consciousness) comprised of? The answer should be obvious!

It is "a composite of the resonant neural synaptic activity at the level of quanta" ("fire") transformed by our brain ("combustibles"). It is really not "rocket science" unless you want to get into the "weeds" of the actual science (which is inappropriate here).
You are implying quanta is the immediate cause, that consciousness exists at the quantum level. Now hit your hand with a hammer. Is the pain quanta, or your brain interpreting the input from the nerves above the level of quanta.

Is THAT conceptually beyond YOUR grasp? Do you really think we do not know the word games you are playing?
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:04 AM
 
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before the earth was created, we were.
yes
or not
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Old 11-16-2022, 10:19 AM
 
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Before the Earth was created, we were.

Thats my opinion, and I figure I am good company of those who believe that we fell here.
Yes you most certainly are if you mean you are in the company of those who believe the same thing. If in the company of those who were here before the Earth was created, I'm sorry, but I think you are all alone with that one...
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Old 11-16-2022, 11:29 AM
 
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You are implying quanta is the immediate cause, that consciousness exists at the quantum level. Now hit your hand with a hammer. Is the pain quanta, or your brain interpreting the input from the nerves above the level of quanta.

Is THAT conceptually beyond YOUR grasp? Do you really think we do not know the word games you are playing?
The "entity" that is interpreting the signals as "pain" exists as the composite described at the level of quanta NOT the sensory system that is registering it. The system registering it is simply dispassionately reporting its intensity. It would seem that IS conceptually beyond your grasp!
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Old 11-16-2022, 12:04 PM
 
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How do believers and non-believers who consider themselves spiritual, look at this question?
As I see it, we are spiritual beings having a temporary human experience.
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Old 11-17-2022, 10:27 AM
 
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The "entity" that is interpreting the signals as "pain" exists as the composite described at the level of quanta NOT the sensory system that is registering it. The system registering it is simply dispassionately reporting its intensity. It would seem that IS conceptually beyond your grasp!
Has anyone ever told you that you sometimes sound like Spock in another episode of Star Trek?
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Old 11-17-2022, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Alabama
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Spirituality is a part of the human experience. Humans are both physical and spiritual beings. Each aspect is just as human as the other.
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Old 11-18-2022, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Yes you most certainly are if you mean you are in the company of those who believe the same thing. If in the company of those who were here before the Earth was created, I'm sorry, but I think you are all alone with that one...
No, I think there may be millions of people that believe that the word has always been, and that the chosen nation has always been, before this earth.

If I told you that the past, present and future are just an illusion and that time isnt what you think it is, I would be with Einstein.
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